View Full Version : OMGosh, I'm at my WITS END with this...
CharmDior
06-18-2011, 07:22 AM
BArKInG! I am going insane!:( Canali just doesn't STOP... it's not really just barking it is whining as well. (I will have to post a video of what I mean!)
Anytime he is put into his crate he has a FIT! He just loses it, no matter if I am standing there or not. Okay, I can understand separation anxiety. I have trained 2 maltese, 1 Weimaraner, and a friend's dog out of that. I just think he is stubborn. I have had to use a muzzle before and have had no shame in using it again. I originally allowed him to cry and whine and wouldn't even speak a word to him until he was quiet for at least 5 minutes. When putting him in I would tell him "Quiet" and then once he did stop, he gets a "Good Quiet!" and affection. If I allow him to keep going with no muzzle involved he will literally bark for an hour to hour and a half. Stopping only to catch his breath. I use the muzzle fearing he might actually not stop to catch his breath. Well, long story short, what can I do?:idontknow: Have I finally met my match?:scratchhd:
He is a sweet and loving little boy...loves to be beside you to cuddle. But also to get into trouble.:tongue:
CharmDior
06-18-2011, 07:29 AM
But he must be crate trained. And when he is put into an xpen it gets worse. I think the space makes him uncomfortable.
JesBred
06-18-2011, 09:19 AM
I originally allowed him to cry and whine and wouldn't even speak a word to him until he was quiet for at least 5 minutes. When putting him in I would tell him "Quiet" and then once he did stop, he gets a "Good Quiet!" and affection. If I allow him to keep going with no muzzle involved he will literally bark for an hour to hour and a half.
I think you should continue to do what you've been doing. Let him cry it out!! When he is quiet tell him "good quiet" and treat him and let him out of his crate. You could also try putting a treat toy in there like a Kong so he likes going in there. Something he ONLY gets when he goes in his crate though :wink5:
You have a Weim so I know you dealt with seperation anxiety :tongue: It took us THREE years to get Jake over his at home, he still is very bad when we travel away from the familliarity of the house :( We would have ONE slip up and it was back to square one with him. So stand your ground and don't give up!! Don't try to many things either, it might confuse him. I think what your doing now is probably your best bet.
It may also just be puppy anxiety. With Mitzy she would whine and whine and whine when we put her in her crate but after maybe a month she finally settled down and we never heard another sound :) So it may just take some time to get him used to using the crate.
Hang in there!! :wink5: It may take longer than you want but it will get better!!
So have you decided Canali is his name?? :D :D
angeleyes
06-18-2011, 10:06 AM
When we got our little schnauzer she was like that when we'd put her in her crate. I finally tried putting a blanket over the crate and I couldn't believe it but it worked. When ever I put the blanket on, not a sound. then when we got Belle it was the same way. She would cry and whine and so I did the blanket thing again and it worked on her too. When I nap during the day for my arthritis, I cover them and they don't make a sound. Same at night. I bought a light weight fleece blanket that is dark gray to keep the light out. When we go somewhere we put them in their crates (I put them facing each other as Sammy is still a baby and wants to know where Belle is) then I cover their crates except for a little part so they can see each other. I think the blanket makes the crate feel more secure. They both also have a toy in there that they sleep with. They chew up every other toy but not their crate toy. You might also try one of those no-bark things that you sit on a table and it makes a high pitched noise when they bark or whine. they can hear it but you can't. Good luck, I know it's frustrating but try the blanket and let me know if it helps. Hugs.
Morkie4
06-18-2011, 10:46 AM
Oh my! Poor fellow! Ok, I'm not into the typical and "normal" training of fluffs. So my suggestion may sound quite different and take it or leave it........:p :p
I would try to put him into the crate with a kong filled with "something" yummy. It may be enough to distract him and keep him busy for however long it takes him to finish and tire of the kong. Increase the the time with the kong as he becomes more accepting of being in the crate. "YOU" set the time limit for each session....it may be before he has even finished with the Kong but "YOU" call the shots. :)
Another thing you might try since he is a real cuddle bug and sweet most of the time, put him in the crate and lay next to him with your arm/hand in the crate with him to sooth him and keep him in there until he has settled down and accepting of the crate........again increase the "training" time with each session.
A cover over the crate might be helpful as well.
Let us know how things are working out for you two!
CharmDior
06-18-2011, 10:51 AM
I think you should continue to do what you've been doing. Let him cry it out!! When he is quiet tell him "good quiet" and treat him and let him out of his crate. You could also try putting a treat toy in there like a Kong so he likes going in there. Something he ONLY gets when he goes in his crate though :wink5:
You have a Weim so I know you dealt with seperation anxiety :tongue: It took us THREE years to get Jake over his at home, he still is very bad when we travel away from the familliarity of the house :( We would have ONE slip up and it was back to square one with him. So stand your ground and don't give up!! Don't try to many things either, it might confuse him. I think what your doing now is probably your best bet.
It may also just be puppy anxiety. With Mitzy she would whine and whine and whine when we put her in her crate but after maybe a month she finally settled down and we never heard another sound :) So it may just take some time to get him used to using the crate.
Hang in there!! :wink5: It may take longer than you want but it will get better!!
So have you decided Canali is his name?? :D :D
This is horrible...but I am still not sure if I am in love with this name like I originally thought. He still hasn't heard it often enough to understand its referring to him though, LOL.
I was afraid it might take that long. I had to fight with Raizo for about 4 months and finally it was under control. I just tell him to "Get in your house" and in he walked. He would always grab a toy to squeak before walking in though...Smartypants!
I was truly hoping he wouldn't have to be checked out by a vet about this. I know someone with a dog on Xanax for his anxiety...a chi. So I get overly worried just thinking about it although, I don't believe he is that bad.
When we got our little schnauzer she was like that when we'd put her in her crate. I finally tried putting a blanket over the crate and I couldn't believe it but it worked. When ever I put the blanket on, not a sound. then when we got Belle it was the same way. She would cry and whine and so I did the blanket thing again and it worked on her too. When I nap during the day for my arthritis, I cover them and they don't make a sound. Same at night. I bought a light weight fleece blanket that is dark gray to keep the light out. When we go somewhere we put them in their crates (I put them facing each other as Sammy is still a baby and wants to know where Belle is) then I cover their crates except for a little part so they can see each other. I think the blanket makes the crate feel more secure. They both also have a toy in there that they sleep with. They chew up every other toy but not their crate toy. You might also try one of those no-bark things that you sit on a table and it makes a high pitched noise when they bark or whine. they can hear it but you can't. Good luck, I know it's frustrating but try the blanket and let me know if it helps. Hugs.
I need a few hugs and drinks for that matter. I have had to make accommodations for my 2 like placing them in crates across from each other. Even across for the weim. It would look like a pow wow meeting between them. But Charm and Dior got along so well that when told to get in their house they would hop into the same crate and sleep side by side like a couple. So cute they were together. I had just thought about the blanket last night. He loves it when I tossed a light towel on top of his big boy bed. So I can give that a try! Thank you!
CharmDior
06-18-2011, 11:10 AM
Oh my! Poor fellow! Ok, I'm not into the typical and "normal" training of fluffs. So my suggestion may sound quite different and take it or leave it........:p :p
I would try to put him into the crate with a kong filled with "something" yummy. It may be enough to distract him and keep him busy for however long it takes him to finish and tire of the kong. Increase the the time with the kong as he becomes more accepting of being in the crate. "YOU" set the time limit for each session....it may be before he has even finished with the Kong but "YOU" call the shots. :)
Another thing you might try since he is a real cuddle bug and sweet most of the time, put him in the crate and lay next to him with your arm/hand in the crate with him to sooth him and keep him in there until he has settled down and accepting of the crate........again increase the "training" time with each session.
A cover over the crate might be helpful as well.
Let us know how things are working out for you two!
I think that was a "take it" piece of advice Missy!:tongue:
Funny you mention that suggestion because we just watched a youtube video of a dog trainer, Ian Dunbar, showing a dog the kong treat being filled and stuffing it in the back of the crate, closing the crate and then letting the dog tell him when he wanted to...let me just post the video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RT_kZYMCUPU
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