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Chloe'n'Gigi
04-24-2007, 04:52 PM
My Gigi is going to have puppies and I have no idea what to do. I am doing some mad seaches right now for information but is anyone can offer advice I would REALLY appreciate it.

Chloe'n'Gigi
04-24-2007, 05:12 PM
OK, I seriously need some advice here. I have grown up with dogs but have never had to deal with puppies. She used to belong to my neighbours but they never took care of her so I offered to take her. When they moved away they just left her in my back yard with a note saying she was probably pregnant and thanking me for offering to take her (cannot even begin to express my anger towards these people....they treated her so badly). I brought her to the vet yesterday and they did an x-ray and ultra-sound and told me yes she is pregnant, there are four puppies and it looks like she will be due in about one to three weeks. I have to bring her back in on friday but he didn't answer any of my questions about puppies all he said was ask the ladies out front and buy some books. He isn't my usual vet (my usual vet is great and is gone for two weeks on vacation as of saturday).
I have never cared for puppies, please I need some help. This wasn't my choice, I didn't breed her. If it had been my choice she would have been spayed at six months but these people are morons and thank god she is with me now. She will be spayed as soon as the pups are born and get new homes.

I Found Nemo
04-24-2007, 05:32 PM
:) Hi,
I dont know much , but I found this site please read it.. Good luck and we are here for you.
Andrea


http://www.homestead.com/malteseluv/WhelpingInfo.html

Chloe'n'Gigi
04-24-2007, 05:48 PM
o my gosh, thank you so much. I found a few other sites that are helpful as well. I will read this one. I have been trying to email my vet also, hopefully he will answer me before the pups come....I don't like his replacement!

PreciousPerri
04-24-2007, 05:55 PM
I don't know anything about it, but I just wanted to say I'm so sorry you're in this situation, and how wonderful you are to try to help this little girl. I would definately find another vet for now, perhaps on that specializes in reproduction that will be able to help you.

maltchimom
04-24-2007, 06:23 PM
I don't know anything to help you. Just wanted to say good luck and how great it is of you to take care of her like this.

Chloe'n'Gigi
04-24-2007, 06:42 PM
Well my other dog Chloe is a maltese toy poodle cross and I rescued her when she was 8 weeks old. The people who bought her gave her to their four year old as a present and then realised she was to fragile for such a young child so I took her. Gigi is a pure maltese (well thats what they said anyways, I think she is a cross but I don't think I will ever know). I am so worried because I have never had to deal with puppies and I know how hard and dangerous it is to care for them and for mom.
My regular vet is a good friend of mine and I am sure he will email me back by tomorrow and I also have a friend who lives about an hour away from me who used to breed yorkshire terriers so hopefully I can get a hold of her tomorrow. I just need to get as much info and help as possible because if worst comes to worst then in one week I will have six dogs!!!!
I am excited I admit but more worried than that. I don't know anything about Gigi's past other than she is just over 2 years old and I don't know anything about the father. They just stuck her over the fence in her kennel with a note taped on it saying "thanks for offering to care for her, she needs help. She might be pregnant and she isn't sick." She was all matted and her face was tear stained. I cleaned her up very well though and she has a comfy bed and she and Chloe are getting along well. I just have to figure out how I am going to care for four puppies now!!!

MalteseJane
04-24-2007, 07:06 PM
Sorry my experience with puppies is very very limited. The time our dachshund girl got herself pregnant with a bigger dog we were lucky. She had 7 babies. When I realized she was ready to deliver I took her to the vet. He gave her a shot and said to give her another one in the afternoon if nothing happens (asked my neighbour who was a nurse if she could do that) and if nothing happens until the next morning to come back and he will do a c-section. We did not need to give the second shot. The babies came in the afternoon and mom took care of them until they could eat on their own.

starry
04-24-2007, 07:56 PM
Iam sorry you had to deal with such a poor excuse of a vet fill in.
I am upset at how he just threw you to the front desk.
Did he tell you what to do in case she has a hard time ? Or at least an idea of what to expect, emergency phone #?
Im so worried for your Gigi, I hope the puppies are not too big as you have no idea who the father is.
Poor baby. You are so wonderful to save her.
I hope your friend can help you and you are close to an emergency clinic if needed. Iam sure you will know everything you can and so I will be thinking and praying for a safe birth.:o

Chloeandj
04-24-2007, 08:44 PM
www.debbiejensen.com is a great site as well. Do you have any idea what she was bred to?

I Found Nemo
04-25-2007, 02:30 AM
:) Hi,
Please come back and let us know how it's all going, I am a little worried I hope you and your baby are ok. I hope these sites have helped a little..
Andrea:)

Morkie4
04-25-2007, 03:58 AM
Sounds like you have a big heart and a real love for furbabies! I hope all goes well with the delivery of the pups! Do keep us posted on how things go!

maltesemum
04-25-2007, 05:14 AM
Hi, if you dont know when she is expecting puppies then it really could be anyday. There are tons of sites out there that can tell you the signs to look for but what i would do is start taking her temperature twice a day every day & write it down, her temp should be fairly consistent until about 24 hours prior to whelping & then it may drop a couple of degrees (dogs normal temp is about 100-102).

She needs to eat well too & you should put her onto puppy food if she only has a couple of weeks left, her apetite will increase too & it would be best to give her lots of small meals thoughout the day as the pups grow they tend to press on her tummy & make her feel more full than she is so plenty of small meals will help. Fresh water always available too.

If she is close to whelping then she should'nt really be left alone for long periods of time, she could go into labour at any time & may need assisance. Most often pups are born at night so be prepared for sleepless nights.

You also need to get a Whelping Kit together - aspirator, KY jelly, scissors, whelping box, towels, papers, thermometer, heat pad & some nutri paste. Just a few things that you may need.

Here are some links that i find helpfull & good luck:hug:

http://malteseluv.homestead.com/WhelpingInfo.html

http://www.hotlib.com/articles/show.php?t=Stages_of_Whelphing_a_Litter_of_Puppies

Chloe'n'Gigi
04-26-2007, 02:56 PM
Thank you all SO much for your help.
I don't know what she was bred to which is another concern of mine but my friend on the other side of my house mentioned that the previous owner had said her sister had a male chihuahua and she would have loved to breed Gigi to him. So hopefully it is him because them the puppies will be small and shouldn't give her too much of a problem when it comes to delivering them.
My vet emailed me this morning and gave me a big long list of things to get for mom and the puppies and he also gave me some instructions and the names and numbers of two vets who he said were very good with pregnant bitches and puppies. I have called one and made an appointment to go and see her tomorrow.
Gigi's belly is VERY swollen so I am sure she will be delivering any day now. I took her temperature last night and it was 101.4 and this morning it was 101.7. I will write it down every day and I told my boss about her as well so when it looks like it is time I know I will have the time off. My friend next door to me is not working right now because of an injury (which won't hinder her caring for puppies) so when I go to work (four days a week eight hours a day) she will sit in my house and watch the girls for me.
I know she is having four puppies from the x-rays and the ultrasound that we did. iI was very upset with that other vet and I did tell my regular guy about him. He has no idea who he is aparently he is a fill in for one of the other vets and my guy has never met him. The bad vet is about 65 and looks like he would rather cook and eat the dogs than care for them...well in my opinion anyways.
I put up some boards in the living room away from the windows for her to have the puppies in. It is an area about three and a half feet by four feet and full of soft towels and lined with puppy pads underneath. And I got her some puppy food which she has been devouring on the spot so I am sure they didn't feed her properly. I am hoping that the puppies are healthy and all alright. Chloe is being a great little helper, she stays away from Gigi's bed and never eats her food and barks whenever she leaves the living room. I think she is baring because shes not 100% used to the fact that she has to share her space but she hasn't been mean at all, they are getting along well. When Gigi has the puppies I will keep Chloe away from her until Gigi is ready.

starry
04-26-2007, 09:59 PM
I feel much better for you and Gigi now!
I am getting excited for you all.
I don't envy the birthing part Gigi!!!!!ouch!
I know your mommy is covering all the bases for you tho.;)
Chloe sounds like a good nurse helper.:wink5:

bek74
04-26-2007, 10:59 PM
I wish you all the very best, and please keep us updated. WE would love some pics of the new arrivals when they come.

Chloe'n'Gigi
04-27-2007, 06:55 AM
I will try to borrow a digital camera when they come, I would love to show you what they look like.
Last night her temperature was 100.9 and this morning it was 101.2 so I am not sure if that is an indicator but I won't start to really stress until it goes below 100. I also went out this morning to my vets office and one of the ladies there gave me some of the things I will need like iodine, suctions bulbs, alcohol, surgical sicors and things like that. I bought a bunch of puppy pads and some nice soft towels and lubricant and a small thermometer specially for puppies and I have food colouring and thread to put on each of the pups as they are born.
I will keep you all updated. We are going to see the vet at 12:30 today and she will give me more complete instructions and her cell phone number so I can call her at any time in case of an emergency. She will also give Gigi a check up and make sure all is well.

I Found Nemo
04-27-2007, 06:58 AM
:) Good luck! You are so brave, just keep reading up just to make sure, I hope your okay. I know it will go fine just take your time and cant wait to see those puppies:hearter:
Andrea

Im26
04-27-2007, 07:00 AM
congradulations!
i hope the vet tells you good news today :D

maltesemum
04-27-2007, 11:38 AM
You sound alot more prepared, well done!

Just relax & try not to get too stressed & i'm sure all will go well, praying for you guys :hug:

Chloe'n'Gigi
04-27-2007, 02:54 PM
I brought Gigi to the new vet today and she is quite sure Gigi will have the puppies by this weeks end. She said she would be surprised is she lasts until monday!!! That made me a bit nervous but she gave me a few more things for my whelping kit and her cell phone number. She said if anything happens she lives close to he office that she can meet me and Gigi there is less than five minutes so that made me much more relieved. She also said that Gigi looks healthy enough to go through delivery with little complications but that I should be prepared for still born puppies just in case because of the previous owners and how they cared for her in the start of her pregnancy.
My friend who has experience breeding also gave me a call back and offered some encouragement and advice that really helped me out as well. I am so glad I found this site now, the support is greatly appreciated. I was worried people would think I was a bad dog owner who bred my dog without getting proper info first. Thanks again to everyone! Hopefully we should have some healthy puppies here soon!
Some more good news I must add, I have homes for two of the puppies already, my mother will take one if there is a male and my best friend (who I have known for almost eleven years, so I trust her alot) has asked for one as well. I may just keep the other two if everyone survives because I don't know that there are alot of people who I would be able to trust enough with one of these little puppies.

maltchimom
04-27-2007, 05:24 PM
Sounds like you are really prepared and organized. Don't think I could ever do it! I wish I lived close I would love to have a little girl.

Alana
04-27-2007, 07:13 PM
Hope everything goes well and you will soon have 4 beautiful pups.

Sounds as though you are doing everything right.
Continue to keep a close eye on her. I pray the pups are small and she will have no problems delivering them.

Good luck and please keep us posted with updates!

bek74
04-29-2007, 01:35 AM
Thankyou for keeping us updated. My prayers are with you and Gigi, and I am sure everything will go just fine.

Yes and please get your friends digital camera, we would love to see pics. We are all with you 100%, you sound so organized ( I wasn't even that organized when I had my skin kids, lol) and Gigi seems to be in the best possible hands with you.

KMitchell
04-29-2007, 09:21 AM
Thanks for the update! Good luck this weekend!! I cant wait to hear about your experience!

Chloe'n'Gigi
04-30-2007, 10:33 AM
Well Gigi had her puppies Sunday morning. It took about three hours and she had four puppies. Unfortunately one was still born, he was the largest and the first born as well but the other three (two girls and a boy) are all fine. They are eating and everything looks good. Gigi is doing very well taking care of them like a good little mommy and Chloe is playing a wonderful nursemaid. She lies right next to Gigi's bed and won't leave the room unless she has to use the bathroom.
The one little female is all apricot coloured, the male is all white and the other female is apricot and white and she has a tan nose. They don't have names just yet and I can't really tell what mix they might be because they are only two days old and still much to young. But as soon as I figure it out I will tell you what I think.
I brought all four to the vet this morning and she said they are all fine and mom is doing very well as well. They had their dew claws removed and they were all weighed and mesaured and she double checked the sex. I did everything I was supposed to do and I am so glad everything went well. I am sad one puppy died but I was prepared for it so I wasn't too heart broken.
One of the females and the male have a home already. My mom wants the one female and my neighbour who is helping me out wants the male. I still have to find a home for the other female but if worse comes to worse and I can't find one, I won't mind keeping her here with me.
I will keep the updates comming and let everyone know about their miles stones as well.

Malteseluv
04-30-2007, 10:48 AM
Wow! Congratulations :) Can't wait to see pictures!
I'm sorry you lost the first one though, that's really sad...

I Found Nemo
04-30-2007, 10:50 AM
:goodluck: :( I'm so sorry about the pup, I am glad you are okay about it. I am really so happy for you, I think you handled it great:wink5: You read up , went to the vet, asked for advice. You did a great job, better than I would have, I would have been scared straight:D Im so happy all went well.Post pictures if you can... Continued Good Luck
Andrea

MalteseJane
04-30-2007, 12:50 PM
Great job. Congratulations on the new pups. Waiting for pictures.

maltchimom
04-30-2007, 04:57 PM
Congratulations on the pups. Sorry about the one pup but you did everything possible. Gigi is so lucky to have you. Can't wait to see pictures.

bek74
04-30-2007, 05:28 PM
CONGRATULATIONS, Gigi and you did a wonderful job. That is sad about the pup lost, at least you were prepared for the unexpected.

I can't wait to see pics, PLEASE tell me you took pics :D .

puppies2nv
04-30-2007, 06:13 PM
Well Gigi had her puppies Sunday morning. It took about three hours and she had four puppies. Unfortunately one was still born, he was the largest and the first born as well but the other three (two girls and a boy) are all fine. They are eating and everything looks good. Gigi is doing very well taking care of them like a good little mommy and Chloe is playing a wonderful nursemaid. She lies right next to Gigi's bed and won't leave the room unless she has to use the bathroom.
The one little female is all apricot coloured, the male is all white and the other female is apricot and white and she has a tan nose. They don't have names just yet and I can't really tell what mix they might be because they are only two days old and still much to young. But as soon as I figure it out I will tell you what I think.
I brought all four to the vet this morning and she said they are all fine and mom is doing very well as well. They had their dew claws removed and they were all weighed and mesaured and she double checked the sex. I did everything I was supposed to do and I am so glad everything went well. I am sad one puppy died but I was prepared for it so I wasn't too heart broken.
One of the females and the male have a home already. My mom wants the one female and my neighbour who is helping me out wants the male. I still have to find a home for the other female but if worse comes to worse and I can't find one, I won't mind keeping her here with me.
I will keep the updates comming and let everyone know about their miles stones as well.
congrats on your new litter...and also glad to hear the whelping went as smooth as it had...and sorry to hear about the loss of the first puppy...i have been there several times...

and it breaks my heart each and everytime i lose one at birth...keep us updated with pictures...

Chloeandj
04-30-2007, 09:46 PM
Congratulations on being a "grandma"! LOL

I'm sorry for the loss of the first one:( but I'm so glad to hear everything else went fine. Enjoy the sweet little ones!

Chloe'n'Gigi
05-01-2007, 09:58 AM
Well the male is officially called Ace. My neighbour came over this morning and Gigi went to get a drink and Ace was still attached to her nipple when she stood up and wouldn't let go and my neighbour said "ooo....your such a card puppy" and put him in the basket. As suddenly as she said it she said "o my gosh...thats it! His name is Ace!." It is stuck and so....he shall be Ace. The little girls don't have names yet. Everyone is alright. I have been trying to get my friend to come over with her camera but she has a little baby and is quite busy herself so hopefully sometime in the next week she should come and bring her camera.

Chloeandj
05-01-2007, 10:18 AM
What a cute name, ACE! I love it. Glad to hear everyone is doing so well!

I was just curious if you were giving calcium supplements to the mother? And if you know the signs of eclampsia? My cousin had her first experience with this and almost lost her female. It is very scary and life threatening. I know a lot of breeders give 1/2 tab of Tums in the morning and at night until the babies are done nursing. You may already know this but just wanted to mention it.

dogloverx4
05-01-2007, 12:43 PM
What exciting news - good luck !!!! Sarah:) :) :)

Chloe'n'Gigi
05-01-2007, 01:33 PM
Thanks so much for telling me about that. I was warned about anemia and malnutrition because the pups are small but that was about it. My vet said if I had any questions to call her which I will do right away. I have been reading a book that the vet gave me all about certain illnesses that malteses can get but I don't know what to do about them. How would I administer a 1/2 tablet to them? Would I mix it with water and have them suck it off my finger? Would it be a 1/2 tablet for each pup?

Chloeandj
05-01-2007, 01:52 PM
NO, you break a tablet in half and give it to the MOTHER, NOT the pups!!! You can smoosh it up in some cheese or something she likes to eat. Make sure she is on high quality puppy food too. Nursing is harder on the mother than pregnancy. Giving a little cottage cheese or plain yogurt is good to help supplement her too. Eclampsia means that the pups are depleting her calcium faster than she can reproduce it. The first sign of eclampsia is stiffness in the legs and it goes downhill very fast from there so do watch her carefully especially when she starts into week 2 and 3.

Chloe'n'Gigi
05-03-2007, 03:33 PM
HAHA, thanks. Sorry moment of stupidness on my part. Atleast I asked before I went ahead and gave it to them. I will see if Gigi likes cottage cheese I know Chloe does so I am sure Gigi will. I gave her a half tablet of tums yesterday (crushed) in some cheese and she spit it out (I even tried peanut butter and she sniffed my finger and turned her head away from me) so I think cottage cheese will have to do.
The puppies are gaining weight steadily and all look very healthy. I found a home for the other female finally. My boss came over the other day to see how everyone was and I told her about the little girl who didn't have a home yet and she said she would take her. She has two cats and they are used to dogs (her dauchsund passed away a few years ago) and she has been wanting another dog ever since.
They all have names now. My neighbours is Ace, my mom named her little girl Lola and my boss is going to call her little lady Shelly. I think they are great names and they suit them well.
Thanks for all the advice and help again I appreciate it!

Chloeandj
05-03-2007, 04:19 PM
Peanut buter on the roof of the mouth is practically impossible to spit out. :awink: That's what I've done with some meds my dogs hate LOL
So nice that they all have homes, that's very nice you'll get to see them all grow up!

maltchimom
05-03-2007, 06:45 PM
So glad they all have good homes. Sounds like you will be able to see them and here how they are doing which I know you will love.

MyTrixie143
05-04-2007, 01:02 AM
I am so glad everything turned out good and that they will all have good homes to go to!! Can't wait to see pictures of them!!

Chloe'n'Gigi
05-04-2007, 06:54 PM
Maltchimom that was my biggest concern is that I might find a home but not know the people very well. I was worried I would have to keep all of them because I am not very trustng of strangers when it comes to my pets. I used to have a cocker spaniel and we ended up geting her sister when she was two years old because aparently the people who took Mindy's sister kept her in an outside dog run all year round and refused to let the breeder over to see the dog. Luckily the breeder had a contract and she ended up calling her lawyer and she got the dog back. She wasn't being negelected food wise but she never got attention and she was in a run 24/7/365 so the poor thing was terrified of people the first little while we had her and she was full of mats and mud so the breeder had a heck of a time trying to groom her. The breeder let us have her because we had expressed interest in adopting another cocker from her. Mindy and Coco have passed away since but they were great dogs.
All the pups are doing well and I am very happy to report that Gigi has put on some weight as well which I wasn't expecting for a little while. Since she had the puppies almost one week ago she has put on 248 grams in weight so bravo to her. I figured she would loose a little or stay the same but she is doing well. The puppies are healthy and crying up a storm when Gigi leaves the nest. I replace the pads underneath once a day and when I do this Gigi will move her pups to the other side of the box, re-work the towels checking the pusp every two seconds and then put them all back into the little hollow in the middle of the mound and lay beck down with them. It is the cutest thing to watch. She is so tender and careful with them and she is always worring. We put her food and water next to the box and when she goes to eat she has a bite then sniffs the pups, then had a bite then sniffs the pups. So cute!!

Chloe'n'Gigi
05-07-2007, 05:54 PM
I had to take Ace to the vets this morning because I think he may have an infection. His umbilical cord is very swollen and red. There is nothing leaking out and it doesn't look like a hernia but I have to bring him back in the morning. They gave me some medication to put in Gigi's water and gave me some cream to put on the cord and told me to bring him back in the morning. I don't think it is anything very serious but I am still worried and I hope so much that he will be alright.
His sisters are doing alright though and so is his momma. She was a bit upset at having to go back to the vets this morning but its alright now, she got a carrot stick when we got home so she has forgiven me I am sure.
When she got out of her basket today to get a drink Chloe actually popped her head over the board to have a sniff at the puppies and instead of growling and going straight back to the pups to curl up around them she sniffed Chloe's nose and she rubbed her body up against Chloe's and then got into her box and layed down with the puppies. She hasn't done that, usually she just watches Chloe and Chloe leaves her alone unless she gets out of the box which is when Chloe sits next to the box until Gigi gets back to the pups. I was very surprised. I think when the puppies are in their new homes Chloe and Gigi will get along well because they seem to be doing very well together even with the pups in the mix!!

Chloe'n'Gigi
05-09-2007, 09:29 AM
Ace is alright. It was a very VERY minor infection we caught it early so the antibiotics we gave him and his mum knocked it out. We have a couple days to wait and watch it but it looke like it has cleanred up.
I was just thinking, it has been almost a week and a half since the pupies were born....I have five dogs! They are so wonderful and I am so happy I will be able to see them all the time because I love them so much. Their colours are starting to darken a little bit already and they are starting to get more dog like features so maybe I will be able to tell what they are very soon. My vet think it is the chihuahua who is the father but I want to wait a few more weeks before I make a real assumption.

I Found Nemo
05-09-2007, 10:57 AM
:hearter: I am so glad he is okay..So scary:( I still think you did so well, you should be happy and I am happy you have found them homes also..
Good Luck,
Andrea

Morkie4
05-09-2007, 02:27 PM
Wow you sure have had your hands full!!!! Glad you found wonderful homes for all the babies!!! Such a nice ending all because you cared and did something about a problem! GOOD FOR YOU!!! We need more people like you around!:)

Chloe'n'Gigi
05-15-2007, 06:09 AM
The puppies are getting so big. I am so sorry I don't have a camera to show you all pictures of them. They all have opened their eyes now and their colours are getting darker. I am quite sure they look like chihuahua crosses. Ace and Lola have ears that stand up and Shelleys ears are floppy. But they all have tiny round heads that look very chihuahua-ish to me. We will see when they get older but for now I will agree with the vet.
Everyone is doing alright and the vet said that Ace is going to be a-ok! Gigi got a haircut yesterday and so did Chloe, they have their summer do finally and the puppies had their first trip outside as well. It was so warm out and my vet said a few minutes outside would be alright seing as they are almost three weeks old now...wow already! They had a great time and spent fifteen minutes on a soft blanket in the gress rolling around and squeeking like little toys!

jdy
05-15-2007, 06:55 AM
The puppies are getting so big. I am so sorry I don't have a camera to show you all pictures of them. They all have opened their eyes now and their colours are getting darker. I am quite sure they look like chihuahua crosses. Ace and Lola have ears that stand up and Shelleys ears are floppy. But they all have tiny round heads that look very chihuahua-ish to me. We will see when they get older but for now I will agree with the vet.
Everyone is doing alright and the vet said that Ace is going to be a-ok! Gigi got a haircut yesterday and so did Chloe, they have their summer do finally and the puppies had their first trip outside as well. It was so warm out and my vet said a few minutes outside would be alright seing as they are almost three weeks old now...wow already! They had a great time and spent fifteen minutes on a soft blanket in the gress rolling around and squeeking like little toys!

awwww lucky
i wanna see pictures!!! wish i was there~

zeek's mom
05-15-2007, 07:14 AM
I see this is a old thread but was wandering how mom and babies are doing. I hope that I am calling you by the right name here, but Chole if there is anything or advise that I can do to help please contact me and let me know. I will help you in any way that I can.:lovehug1:

Opps I see you have just updated on how everyone is............Sorry about that everyone. I started this reply and it took a few minutes to get it done. lol

MaxJack'sMom
05-15-2007, 07:30 AM
So glad to hear that momma and babies are going well. I love the names the little ones have, and I'm also sorry that you lost one little pup. Best of luck and I'm sure all the pups will have a wonderful life with their new families.

zeek's mom
05-15-2007, 09:07 AM
Oh I had to post this. I feel real stupid right now. :blush: When I posted my reply earlier today I must have had computer glitz cause it went from page one to this page. Anyway I am happy that the babies and mom are all doing well. And that you have homes for them. Please bare with me everyone, I am slow with figuring this computer stuff out.............:lol2: Maybe I will get it figured out sooner than later.:p

Chloe'n'Gigi
05-16-2007, 08:54 AM
Zeek's mom any advice that you can give me would be highly appreciated. They are three weeks old now, everyone had a home and they are all very healthy.
I have a wonderful vetrinarian who is helping me out with them and she is very patient because I have never raised puppies so young before. My other dog Chloe I received when she was five weeks old and I rescued her and her two siblings. We homed them and cared for them for a few weeks but it wasn't as difficult as Gigi and her babies have been.
I was a nervous wreck the first few weeks I had her but now the pups are getting older it is getting easier because I have a schedule now.
I have never raised puppies and never planned on breeding so any advice anyone can offer is still appreciated and needed haha!
We have hit a milestone with Lola...she managed to climb out of the basket today. I put the puppies in a basket with gigi when I clean the box out everyday and today I went to put everyone back into the box and I only counted two puppies. After a momentary heart attack I spotted her on the other side of the basket playing with a piece of blanket that was sticking out between the straw bits! She is the only puppy who hasn't managed to get out of the basket yet so I am very happy about that. Shelly was the first followed by Ace and when ever they get out Gigi is right there to put them back in. She is such a worry wort mommy!

zeek's mom
05-16-2007, 09:20 AM
Exactly how old are the babies right now? Has your vet started giving the babies and mom dewormer yet. I start mine at 4 weeks. Then the babies need it every other week until they go to there new homes. The reason that I ask the age is because at 4 weeks the babies can start eating a little mush. Oh I almost forgot something. Have you been feeding mom puppy food. If not it is a very good idea. She can get some of the nutrients back from the puppy food that the babies are taking from her. Back to the mush. What I do is put the puppy food in my blender and blend it down to where it is almost nothing but powder. Then all you need to do is add hot water to it. Add the water slowly. For three puppies you will probably need to start out with a little over a tablespoon of the powdered puppy food. To get the puppies to start eating hold one in you lap (make sure you put a towel under them it is going to get messy), and put a little on your finger tip and just put it into the puppies mouth. It may take a couple times of doing this but they normally catch on pretty quick. You may want to put a dish of water in there area when you start introducing the food to them.

I never ever take my puppies away from my mom's. I let her wing them on her own unless she is having problems. You will notice that after you start introducing them to the mush mom will clean there hineys less. And that is normal. You just need to check daily to make sure that they have nothing stuck on there hineys from pooping and sitting in it.

You are getting at the fun stage with the babies now. I love this stage. I do recommend that you or someone hold and talk to each one at least twice a day for 15 min each time. It is very detrimental in there socialization. Make sure that when you are talking to them you have them where they can look at you in your eyes. You will be teaching them how to trust.

If you have any questions or concerns just let me know.

Chloe'n'Gigi
05-21-2007, 01:47 PM
Gigi has been eating puppy food since the first day I got her which was about one week before the pups were born. She is still eating it today, I am not sure when to faze her off of it. She will be eating it till the pups go to their new homes that is for sure but after that I don't know?
The puppies are 4 weeks and 1 day old as of today. I started them on the same puppy food Gigi is eating today and I mix it with warm water like my vet told me to. And boy o boy, I will agree it was a messy thing! But it was fun to and they were so cute with their faces all covered in mush! Lola got it all over her belly even because she kept wrapping her paws around my finger and then she would run her paws on her pudgy little belly!
They have an appointment this wednesday to get a check up and to get their de-worming stuff. I won't be letting them go to their new homes until they are atleast 12 weeks. And their new perents have been comming over every other day almost to say hi and play with the babies so they are getting LOTS of socialization. My neighbour also has a sheltie who I will be introducing to them when they are about 8 weeks (after their first puppy shots) because she is taking one of the pups so I think it would be best to have them get used to each other befoe they go to their new homes. They know my other dog Chloe already and I spend lots of time with Gigi as well. I don't handle her pups all the time but it is definitely safe to say that they get plenty of loving from people every day and definitely 15 minutes or more.
I also bring them outside for a few minutes every day. They seem to enjoy rolling around on the soft blanket though Lola and Ace are a bit nervous of the grass because it is a deep as they are tall hehe!

zeek's mom
05-21-2007, 03:15 PM
Gigi has been eating puppy food since the first day I got her which was about one week before the pups were born. She is still eating it today, I am not sure when to faze her off of it. She will be eating it till the pups go to their new homes that is for sure but after that I don't know?
The puppies are 4 weeks and 1 day old as of today. I started them on the same puppy food Gigi is eating today and I mix it with warm water like my vet told me to. And boy o boy, I will agree it was a messy thing! But it was fun to and they were so cute with their faces all covered in mush! Lola got it all over her belly even because she kept wrapping her paws around my finger and then she would run her paws on her pudgy little belly!
They have an appointment this Wednesday to get a check up and to get their de-worming stuff. I won't be letting them go to their new homes until they are atleast 12 weeks. And their new parents have been coming over every other day almost to say hi and play with the babies so they are getting LOTS of socialization. My neighbour also has a sheltie who I will be introducing to them when they are about 8 weeks (after their first puppy shots) because she is taking one of the pups so I think it would be best to have them get used to each other befoe they go to their new homes. They know my other dog Chloe already and I spend lots of time with Gigi as well. I don't handle her pups all the time but it is definitely safe to say that they get plenty of loving from people every day and definitely 15 minutes or more.
I also bring them outside for a few minutes every day. They seem to enjoy rolling around on the soft blanket though Lola and Ace are a bit nervous of the grass because it is a deep as they are tall hehe!

Please Please do not let the babies on the grass in the yard. Parvo last for 7 years and is very easily contract through there paw pads. Nothing to say for the other viruses and worms that can spread so easily in the lawn. There mom's have given them immunity from some things that tends to start waring off at this age.

I am so glad all is going well and that they are getting socialization. Also another rule of thumb to remember is that it takes at least 10-14 days for the vaccination to be in effect. I always make my family's sign my contract that states that they will not take the puppy into any public places until the puppy has received all of its puppy vaccinations.

Keep us informed and I look forward to more updates.

Chloe'n'Gigi
05-23-2007, 10:20 AM
I am trying to keep them off the grass because of viruses and bugs they can get through the grass. Shelley is the only one who has gotten onto the grass and as son as I saw her and went to get her her mom swooped in to the rescue!
I do have two questions though. # 1 When should I start socializing them with other dogs??? Most of my friends have small dogs (shelties, malteses, shihtzus and cavaliers) but I don't know when we should start getting them used to other dogs. I don't want to start now as they are way to young and Gigi wouldn't go for that. Chloe is all she will tolerate near her and the pups. She even flips out when she sees dogs walking by the house.
# 2 Myself and their new parents have decided to let them stay with Gigi until they are 14 weeks and I am not sure what to do about a contract. My mom is taking Lola, my boss is taking Shelley and my neighbour is taking Ace. My mom and I are very close, my boss and I are good friends and my neighbour and I are also very close so I know everyone who will be taking the pups very well which was very important for me. I have never done a contract or seen one regarding puppies so if you could give me some pointers about that I would really appreciate it. They will all be fixed when they are old enough, we have discussed that. They will also be vetrinary checked, al their shots up to date, de-wormed, microchipped and I will be giving them applications to get their dog licenses. I don't know what else I should do. The new parents will be paying me for the vet check, shots and microchip which I have figured to be about $250.00 per puppy. I just need to know how to do up a contract.
I used to wonder what it would be like for me to breed.....I think when I get my own house and have room for more dogs I will only be showing because this puppy thing is too much for me! Too much money, too much worry and WAY too much stress!!!

zeek's mom
05-23-2007, 11:12 AM
I suggest that you not even take the babies out of your house. It is way to risky for them in the yard. Here are my best suggestions for the questions that you asked......

Question #1: If you are going to keep the babies until they are 14 weeks old the mom will let you know when she is ready to let other animals around. She should have them completely weened by the age of 8 weeks. And she will start letting other's around her at that age. I would not let any other dogs around them until at least 2 weeks after there first vaccination. People are know to not always tell the whole truth. And I would not risk the babies to any other animals from outside of your home until then.

Question #2: Here is a link to my contract. You are more than welcome to base yours from it.
http://www.clabecmaltese.com/OurContract.html

And I can not blame you for not wanting to breed. It can be very exhausting. But I love it and it keeps me busy. Always on my toes. And I would not have it any other way.

Best of luck to you. And would you please give those babies a great big hug from Mama Becky. That is what I call myself to mine.......

Chloe'n'Gigi
05-23-2007, 06:41 PM
I will be sure to give them a big hug. I am calling myself auntie Holly right now haha!
I have only brought them outside three times but I think I will keep them inside just to be safe. You are so right, with no shots and being so young they are way to delicate right now.
I will be sure to watch for signs of her being more accepting of other around the pups. Chloe steers clear of her for the most part I only allow her to be around Gigi when I am home to supervise otherwise I have put up a baby gate to keep her out of the living room. They have only had one tiff and it was because Chloe barked at the mail man and scared Gigi. She was laying on the floor about three feet from Gigi and Gigi jumped up and growled at Chloe. Maybe because she woke the kids??? It wasn't a big deal though thankfully.
And thanks for the link to your contract I am sure it will be very helpful to me. I felt a bit awkward about doing a contract at first but when I broached the subject with my neighbour and my boss when they were over they actually insisted I do one "just in case" they said. So I am glad, I thought they would be offended that I didn't trust them but anyways....thats me being a worry wort as usual!
I am glad that there are other people out there that have so much information and good advice to offer me because I would have been an absolute wreck. I think when the puppies are older I will be a bit better. I worry so much because they are just so tiny (they only just reached a pound in weight each about a week ago) and Gigi came from a bad situation. But I am very glad that I have them because I am learning so much from them that it is astounding!

Chloe'n'Gigi
05-31-2007, 04:24 PM
Well the babies are almost five weeks old. We have decided that on their six week birthday their new parents have decided to go as a group down to the pets mart and get them their new collars and name tag. I think that will be so nice!!
Babies are doing well and so is mommy. After our crazy lady incident I haven't walked the girls around the block I am sticking to the field in front of my house but that isn't to bad and they seem to like it more anyways.
I have noticed though that Shelley seems to be chewing alot more. I don't know if she is teething or what but she chews on her brother and sisters tails or ears, on her moms tail and ears, on her feet, on the blankets and towels in her bed and if Gigi brings her toy into the bed she even chews on that (a flossy or rope bone). It is strange I have never seen a puppy that young chews on things as much as she does.

Chloe'n'Gigi
06-05-2007, 10:54 AM
Well the puppies have ALL discovered the joys of eating mush! I brought out the bowl of puppy food that I have been feeding them. I mix it with some warm water to soften it up and let them have at it. I had to answer the phone (which is on the table next to me so I didn't have far to go) and I momentarily turned away from them to get it. When I hung up and turned back.....all three of them had their front paws in the dish and were COVERED in puppy mush!! It was the cutest thing! I went o clean them off with a wet rag and Gigi came to help me. She got a meal at the same time to because she picked Shelley who was the messiest to clean!!

I Found Nemo
06-05-2007, 11:23 AM
Well the puppies have ALL discovered the joys of eating mush! I brought out the bowl of puppy food that I have been feeding them. I mix it with some warm water to soften it up and let them have at it. I had to answer the phone (which is on the table next to me so I didn't have far to go) and I momentarily turned away from them to get it. When I hung up and turned back.....all three of them had their front paws in the dish and were COVERED in puppy mush!! It was the cutest thing! I went o clean them off with a wet rag and Gigi came to help me. She got a meal at the same time to because she picked Shelley who was the messiest to clean!!

:D I am so happy all is going well, sounds like loads of fun:D
Andrea

zeek's mom
06-05-2007, 12:43 PM
Awwwwwwww the joys of puppyhood!!!!!!! I am so glad they are doing well.

Chloe'n'Gigi
06-05-2007, 04:27 PM
They are just the cutest little things. I hosted dinner at my house the other day because all the new parents were at my place and we ate dinner on the back porch and the puppies and Gigi were in the kitchen with the screen door open and we could hear them squeeking and whining away as they played together and I told them when they turn 14 weeks they have to go to their new homes right away because I might just keep them! They are such a joy to have, I almost forgot how cute puppies were if that is possible haha! These three are little angels even if they do poo on my floors and pee on my couch pillows!! (Chloe pulls them off the couch and lays on the on the floor and the pupies will crawl all over them when they are out of the basket and pee on them!)
I was wondering what should I do to socialize them? I am going to wait until they have had their first shots (about 10-14 daysafterwards) but I don't know what to do. Should I take them with me to the pets store a few times? We have a HUGE petsmart near my home. Should I take them with me to Chloe's agility group? I asked around and they all told me it would be fine if I brought the pups along. Should I have my friends come over with their dogs and let them interact like that? I have no clue what to do.

zeek's mom
06-05-2007, 04:54 PM
I have the same problem with the pee and poop issue. I have found that Clorox Wipes are wonderful for clean ups. I wipe it with a paper towel first then hit it with the wipe. Which I have linoleum floors and that helps a lot. I also have thrown an old blanket that can be washed and rewashed on the floor for them to cuddle with mom on. Another thing that I have found very useful is cheap dog beds. The puppies tend to learn to use them for there potting spot. They are washable and easily cleaned up. I have several. And love them. Believe it or not they are actually pretty close to being potty trained by 12 weeks of age. All the families have to do is show the pups the place that they want them to do there "business". The reason that I do not put news paper or potty pads down because they tend to think that they are something to play with and destroy them....lol

Now to the socialization. I would not recommend that that you take the babies into any public place except the vet then I do not recommend that you let them touch the floor. They can catch diseases up until they are fully inoculated. So if you are positive that your new families dogs have been vaccinated I would suggest that you have them bring their pets to your home. You may not believe this but those babies are being more socialized than you could ever imagine. And I have no worries about them. You are doing a great job.

Chloe'n'Gigi
06-05-2007, 05:09 PM
Zeek's mom you are a godsend I swear it! My neighbours dog will be introduced to them when they have had their shots and they are used to Chloealready. Gigi actually doesn't even care anymore when they worm on over to Chloe. Chloe kind of freaked out when Ace suddenly was under her belly. She jumped onto the couch and started barking really softly until Gigi came over to investigate!
I have hardwood floors througout my entire house and kitchen and bathroom are tiled so I don't have to worry about carpet stains. They have yet to eat the puppy pads but they do chew on the towels. I wash the towels every day and put down new puppy pads every day as well and when they mess I use clorox disinfectant wipes and this stuff my vet gave me. It is a wipe and aparently he said it neutralizes odours because the puppies often pee or poo in the same places they went in before so if they smell any remnants they are liable to mess there again.
Also another question do you know why Shelly would be chewing so much? Her teeth are comming in but I didn't know puppies would chew as much as she does. Ace and Lola hardly chew at all right now. Only the towel and only for a few second then they get bored. I swear anything near her including her siblings, her mother, Chloe, the towels...heck even me sometimes is game! She chews on everything! She isn't destructive but she does use those tiny little teefers of hers and they are starting to hurt haha! Could it be her teething?

Chloe'n'Gigi
06-06-2007, 02:24 PM
lol, I have yet ANOTHER question. The puppies are five weeks and I have heard from both the vets I am seeing that Gigi's milk should begin to dry up soon and she will start to wean the puppies in a few weeks. I have been reading through my book and checking different websites and I cannot find anything that will definitively tell me what I should do when this happens and/or what I should look for. Will Gigi be aggressive towards the puppies when she refuses to nurse them? Will her milk dry up and the puppies just not be able to nurse anymore? Is there anything I should be worried about? When does this usually occur? My book says between 6 and seven weeks, my vets have told me between six and eight weeks and sometimes the bitch can still nurse the pups into the ninth week of their life. And I haven't found one website that tells me anything. Hopefully you can help me, this is just yet another thing for me to worry about.
Vet says they are doing well by the way. They are all gaining the proper amount of weight and they are now loving the puppy mush, they are taking a while to get used to the water as they just discovered Gigi's water bowl and would rather play in it than drink out of it!

zeek's mom
06-06-2007, 02:47 PM
Zeek's mom you are a godsend I swear it! My neighbours dog will be introduced to them when they have had their shots and they are used to Chloealready. Gigi actually doesn't even care anymore when they worm on over to Chloe. Chloe kind of freaked out when Ace suddenly was under her belly. She jumped onto the couch and started barking really softly until Gigi came over to investigate!
I have hardwood floors througout my entire house and kitchen and bathroom are tiled so I don't have to worry about carpet stains. They have yet to eat the puppy pads but they do chew on the towels. I wash the towels every day and put down new puppy pads every day as well and when they mess I use clorox disinfectant wipes and this stuff my vet gave me. It is a wipe and aparently he said it neutralizes odours because the puppies often pee or poo in the same places they went in before so if they smell any remnants they are liable to mess there again.
Also another question do you know why Shelly would be chewing so much? Her teeth are comming in but I didn't know puppies would chew as much as she does. Ace and Lola hardly chew at all right now. Only the towel and only for a few second then they get bored. I swear anything near her including her siblings, her mother, Chloe, the towels...heck even me sometimes is game! She chews on everything! She isn't destructive but she does use those tiny little teefers of hers and they are starting to hurt haha! Could it be her teething?

Yes it is her teething, but you need to start setting boundaries. When she chews on something that she should not, tell her firmly NO NO and give her a stuffy or a hard rubber toy. She is starting to get some bad habits by doing it so much, and it needs to be addressed now, or her new family are not going to be very happy with her. It is pretty easy to stop them at this age. But if she is let to continue doing it it will become a very bad learned behavior that no one likes in a pup.

zeek's mom
06-06-2007, 03:06 PM
lol, I have yet ANOTHER question. The puppies are five weeks and I have heard from both the vets I am seeing that Gigi's milk should begin to dry up soon and she will start to wean the puppies in a few weeks. I have been reading through my book and checking different websites and I cannot find anything that will definitively tell me what I should do when this happens and/or what I should look for. Will Gigi be aggressive towards the puppies when she refuses to nurse them? Will her milk dry up and the puppies just not be able to nurse anymore? Is there anything I should be worried about? When does this usually occur? My book says between 6 and seven weeks, my vets have told me between six and eight weeks and sometimes the bitch can still nurse the pups into the ninth week of their life. And I haven't found one website that tells me anything. Hopefully you can help me, this is just yet another thing for me to worry about.
Vet says they are doing well by the way. They are all gaining the proper amount of weight and they are now loving the puppy mush, they are taking a while to get used to the water as they just discovered Gigi's water bowl and would rather play in it than drink out of it!

After about 3 or 4 days start getting the mush a little dryer. They should gobble it down also. At 6 weeks I start leaving dry kibble in there area. They will learn real quick where it is and how to eat it. Oh I almost forgot . I advise you to get two non skid bowls. They can not turn them over and they will not scoot out from under them. When you put the dry kibble down also put a bowl of water. The dry kibble will help them with the teething. Mom will gradually ween them. If she is like all of mine she will do this gradually and the milk will slowly begin to dry up. Vets say things that we breeders do not always agree with. I never take the babies away from mom. She will ween them in due time. And they need her to teach them how to behave under the pecking order. If that makes any since. You are doing great and just let nature take its course with mom weening. She will do fine there is nothing to worry about. I promise.

kelkiss5
06-07-2007, 12:50 PM
Ach am ao glad everything went well with the mum and babies. Id really love to see some pics. give yourself a big hug from me, as you have done very well with them.

Chloe'n'Gigi
06-08-2007, 05:59 AM
Thanks ZeeksMom, I didn't have alot of toys for them but I went to petsmart yesterday and got a toy for each of them and then some! They now have two toys each and their new parents are going out tomorrow to get their new collars and tags. Shelley LOVES the flossy bone I got for her and totally stopped chewing on her siblings and the basket. She now only chews the towel and her toy and I always give her the toy when I see her chewing the towel and I tell her no gently, I think she is getting the picture and she is in love with her other toy, a canvas teddy bear....she attacks it with some serious gusto. Which brings me to another thing. Up until now they have been pretty quiet only squeeking and whining when Gigi is not near them. But yesterday when I gave them their new toys, they all barked and growled for the first time! I know my one friend said it was wierd that they have been so quiet but I didn't mind. They sound like little gremlins when they growl....it is SO cute! Makes me love them even more haha!
I won't be taking the pups away from Gigi, I want her to wean them herself. My other vet (my regular one) suggested I take them away from her at six weeks and I said no but he didn't argue he said it is whatever I prefer and it is probably better for them to let Gigi wean them so that is what I am going to do. I don't know if her milk is drying up but I do know the puppies don't nurse as much as they did before they started eating thier scrumptious mush so i am taking that as a sign.

I Found Nemo
06-08-2007, 06:07 AM
So glad to hear all is well
Andrea:D

Morkie4
06-08-2007, 06:18 AM
After about 3 or 4 days start getting the mush a little dryer. They should gobble it down also. At 6 weeks I start leaving dry kibble in there area. They will learn real quick where it is and how to eat it. Oh I almost forgot . I advise you to get two non skid bowls. They can not turn them over and they will not scoot out from under them. When you put the dry kibble down also put a bowl of water. The dry kibble will help them with the teething. Mom will gradually ween them. If she is like all of mine she will do this gradually and the milk will slowly begin to dry up. Vets say things that we breeders do not always agree with. I never take the babies away from mom. She will ween them in due time. And they need her to teach them how to behave under the pecking order. If that makes any since. You are doing great and just let nature take its course with mom weening. She will do fine there is nothing to worry about. I promise.

GREAT ADVICE!!!!!! TWO THUMBS UP TO YOU BECKY!!!

Chloe'n'Gigi
06-08-2007, 04:24 PM
So I made their kibble a tiny bit dryer today and they still gobbled it down like it was a hot commodity as usual haha but I had to keep pulling Gigi away from it because she kept trying to push the pups away and eat it herself. She has her own food and there is always food in her bowl so its not like she was starving...wierd. I think it is because she wanted to get in on the action maybe? I will keep an eye on her and if she keeps it up I will just feed the pups in an area where she cannot get to them. But I have a question about that, when do I start to cut back on Gigi's food and give her the regular stuff that Chloe eats????
Ace has a pretty black leather collar and silver dog paw tag, Lola's collar is hot pink and her tag is a silver heart and Shelly's collar is neon green and purple and she has a pink paw tag. We are going to have dinner here tomorrow evening and the puppies will get to try out their new collars but they won't get to keep them until they go to their new homes which is still about 7 weeks or so away! We haven't pinned down a day to send them to their new homes but I have finally drafted up a contract and I will have my friends husband (a lawyer) look it over to make sure it is ok.
I have a feeling she is starting to wean them already because today ALL the dgs were playing together, even Chloe and she usually lays on the couch watching everyone. Chloe was chasing Lola and Ace and play wrastling with them and she and Gigi even did a little wrastling! It was funny to watch, Chloe being all careful and gentle and the puppies giving it their all!

zeek's mom
06-09-2007, 12:31 AM
So I made their kibble a tiny bit dryer today and they still gobbled it down like it was a hot commodity as usual haha but I had to keep pulling Gigi away from it because she kept trying to push the pups away and eat it herself. She has her own food and there is always food in her bowl so its not like she was starving...wierd. I think it is because she wanted to get in on the action maybe? I will keep an eye on her and if she keeps it up I will just feed the pups in an area where she cannot get to them. But I have a question about that, when do I start to cut back on Gigi's food and give her the regular stuff that Chloe eats????
Ace has a pretty black leather collar and silver dog paw tag, Lola's collar is hot pink and her tag is a silver heart and Shelly's collar is neon green and purple and she has a pink paw tag. We are going to have dinner here tomorrow evening and the puppies will get to try out their new collars but they won't get to keep them until they go to their new homes which is still about 7 weeks or so away! We haven't pinned down a day to send them to their new homes but I have finally drafted up a contract and I will have my friends husband (a lawyer) look it over to make sure it is ok.
I have a feeling she is starting to wean them already because today ALL the dgs were playing together, even Chloe and she usually lays on the couch watching everyone. Chloe was chasing Lola and Ace and play wrastling with them and she and Gigi even did a little wrastling! It was funny to watch, Chloe being all careful and gentle and the puppies giving it their all!

Yes it is normal for mom to try and eat the babies food. You have gotten a lot further that I ever have. I have to remove mom while feeding the babies. I always let her have what is left after the babies get through eating but that is all. I is normal for her to want it. All mom's do that. Are you going to have she spayed before her next cycle? I can not remember if we have spoke about that yet.

Chloe'n'Gigi
06-11-2007, 09:53 AM
Yes I will be having her spayed. I am not sure when, I am thinking when the pups are ten weeks because they should be weaned by then and I will be able to seperate her from them and not induce to to much stress on all of them. My vet said that might be a good time to spay her as well. I am not quite sure when I should do it though or when her next heat cycle will be. Soon I am sure, would you hapen to know when they occur?
All the puppies are getting so big and they seem to like playing with Chloe and Gigi alot more now. They absolutly LOVE pouncing on eachother to and it is so much fun to watch them play, they are like little kittens almost pouncing and chasing and stalking eachother or their toys or Gigi and Chloe! They are officially six weeks old yesterday and they got their collars and we had great fun celebrating and playing with them the other day as well. Especially because all the while I was cooking the puppies kept walking into the kitchen with their noses in the air trying to figure out what smelled so darn good!

I Found Nemo
06-11-2007, 11:32 AM
I am glad you are getting her spayed..Im glad everything worked out, what a nice outcome..
Andrea:D

zeek's mom
06-11-2007, 11:47 AM
If the puppies are six weeks you should have around 10 weeks before she comes back into season. Most small breeds have pretty regular heats at around 6 months. I have two girls that I can depend on it every time to be exactly 6 months from the last cycle, 4 months after delivery. But I was speaking with a breeder friend this morning and we both have a couple of girls that are running late. We are thinking it has something to do with the weather. Anyway I do not know if I would spay her while the pups are still in the home though. It is going to be hard on her as it is and you do not want to add the stress of the babies being there and her not being able to go around them. And she definitely will not be able to go around them. If it were me I would plan on it a week after the pups leave. That way she will be adjusted to not having them in the home. But that is only the way that I would do it.

I Found Nemo
06-11-2007, 01:15 PM
If the puppies are six weeks you should have around 10 weeks before she comes back into season. Most small breeds have pretty regular heats at around 6 months. I have two girls that I can depend on it every time to be exactly 6 months from the last cycle, 4 months after delivery. But I was speaking with a breeder friend this morning and we both have a couple of girls that are running late. We are thinking it has something to do with the weather. Anyway I do not know if I would spay her while the pups are still in the home though. It is going to be hard on her as it is and you do not want to add the stress of the babies being there and her not being able to go around them. And she definitely will not be able to go around them. If it were me I would plan on it a week after the pups leave. That way she will be adjusted to not having them in the home. But that is only the way that I would do it.

WOW Great advice Becky, I had no idea..
Thanks:D

Morkie4
06-11-2007, 07:47 PM
WOW Great advice Becky, I had no idea..
Thanks:D

Nice to have someone aboard that we can get great advice from on the more technical stuff!!! Thanks Becky for sharing the information.:goodpost: :goodpost:

I Found Nemo
06-12-2007, 02:51 AM
I am glad Becky is here we need her and plus we like her alot too so thats a great big plus:hearter:

Morkie4
06-12-2007, 10:45 AM
Yes I will be having her spayed. I am not sure when, I am thinking when the pups are ten weeks because they should be weaned by then and I will be able to seperate her from them and not induce to to much stress on all of them. My vet said that might be a good time to spay her as well. I am not quite sure when I should do it though or when her next heat cycle will be. Soon I am sure, would you hapen to know when they occur?
All the puppies are getting so big and they seem to like playing with Chloe and Gigi alot more now. They absolutly LOVE pouncing on eachother to and it is so much fun to watch them play, they are like little kittens almost pouncing and chasing and stalking eachother or their toys or Gigi and Chloe! They are officially six weeks old yesterday and they got their collars and we had great fun celebrating and playing with them the other day as well. Especially because all the while I was cooking the puppies kept walking into the kitchen with their noses in the air trying to figure out what smelled so darn good!


Hope you don't go through the "empty nest syndrome" when all those jumping/pouncing babies to to their new homes.:( :( Please post some pics of them, I'd like to see them little kids!!! PLEASE

Chloe'n'Gigi
06-12-2007, 11:49 AM
Oh I will be going through the empty nest sydrome for sure! I wish Ihad a camera other wise I would have a million pictures of them up. I am trying my best to save up for one. It is really hard being a single girl with five dogs, rent, a car and all sorts of bills other wise I would have a camera by now. My boyfriend (now just a friend) dropped my old one in the pool and because it was already one year old the warranty didn't cover it. He hasn't bought me a new one yet....maybe I should take his dog hostage until he does? That should motivate him....haha only kidding!
I have decided to have Gigi spayed a week after the puppies go home. So I have made an appointment for eight weeks from now. August 2 is her date for now.
The puppies have almost stopped nursing completely. They slowed down when they were about five weeks and now I only see them nurse in the evening when everything is being battoned down for the night. They eat their food and love to play in the water dish but they also drink the water now so that is good! I have decided to leave the baby gate up to keep them in the living room now and I took out the boards where their whelping are was because they are able to jump cleanly over it now so it serves no purpose other than as an irritation to Gigi and myself (I keep stubbing my toes on the dang things!)

Morkie4
06-12-2007, 11:52 AM
Oh I will be going through the empty nest sydrome for sure! I wish Ihad a camera other wise I would have a million pictures of them up. I am trying my best to save up for one. It is really hard being a single girl with five dogs, rent, a car and all sorts of bills other wise I would have a camera by now. My boyfriend (now just a friend) dropped my old one in the pool and because it was already one year old the warranty didn't cover it. He hasn't bought me a new one yet....maybe I should take his dog hostage until he does? That should motivate him....haha only kidding!
I have decided to have Gigi spayed a week after the puppies go home. So I have made an appointment for eight weeks from now. August 2 is her date for now.
The puppies have almost stopped nursing completely. They slowed down when they were about five weeks and now I only see them nurse in the evening when everything is being battoned down for the night. They eat their food and love to play in the water dish but they also drink the water now so that is good! I have decided to leave the baby gate up to keep them in the living room now and I took out the boards where their whelping are was because they are able to jump cleanly over it now so it serves no purpose other than as an irritation to Gigi and myself (I keep stubbing my toes on the dang things!)

Oh, doesn't anybody have a camera you could get at least one shot???? I'd love to see them!!!They sound like sooooo much fun!:hearter: :hearter:

lilybellesmom
06-12-2007, 04:32 PM
Cell phone camera?

Chloe'n'Gigi
06-13-2007, 08:17 PM
I have tried to usemy cellphone camera but it won't send the pictures right...they always end up to big or the wrong format.
More importantly....EMERGENCY!!!!! Chloe got a tick and I have removed it from her and killed the bug in alcohol. I checked Gigi over from head to toe and all the puppies as well just in case...no one has any. What should I do about Chloe? She is currently all right and looks fine, my vet said to keep a close eye on her and if she looks tired, has a fever, has joint pain, limps or starts to throw up or if the bite looks very red and inflamed then bring her in asap. Is there anything I should be worried about her passing to the puppies? I has ben there for a few days atleast and I am worried for them all. Gigi, the puppies and Chloe...I love them so much and would hate for them to get sick. What do I do help??!! I am looking all over the internet and I asked my vet a million questions but he said not to worry unless Chloe looks sick....but I am!!

Morkie4
06-13-2007, 08:25 PM
I have tried to usemy cellphone camera but it won't send the pictures right...they always end up to big or the wrong format.
More importantly....EMERGENCY!!!!! Chloe got a tick and I have removed it from her and killed the bug in alcohol. I checked Gigi over from head to toe and all the puppies as well just in case...no one has any. What should I do about Chloe? She is currently all right and looks fine, my vet said to keep a close eye on her and if she looks tired, has a fever, has joint pain, limps or starts to throw up or if the bite looks very red and inflamed then bring her in asap. Is there anything I should be worried about her passing to the puppies? I has ben there for a few days atleast and I am worried for them all. Gigi, the puppies and Chloe...I love them so much and would hate for them to get sick. What do I do help??!! I am looking all over the internet and I asked my vet a million questions but he said not to worry unless Chloe looks sick....but I am!!

Kallie had a tick and I saw it right away and removed it and she never got sick or anything...........but it's good to be concerned but just keep an eye on her. I am sure if there was something the vet could do, he would have told you.

KMitchell
06-13-2007, 10:26 PM
I never knew that dogs had a regular cycle like women...that is interesting...weird, but nice to know!

I Found Nemo
06-14-2007, 01:28 AM
I never knew that dogs had a regular cycle like women...that is interesting...weird, but nice to know!

:confused: I didn't know that either, is that really true:confused: :D :D

zeek's mom
06-14-2007, 03:02 AM
Kallie had a tick and I saw it right away and removed it and she never got sick or anything...........but it's good to be concerned but just keep an eye on her. I am sure if there was something the vet could do, he would have told you.

I know that ticks can cause so very serious problems. Can you still see where the tick was attached. If so put a dab of fingernail polish on it just in case you did not get the head completely out. It will kill the tick and keep it from growing. Other than that all I can suggest is to watch her closely. I have never had a bad reaction from them, but have had them grow back. There are diseases that they carry, but I have been blessed not to have that happened. But I always put the dab of polish where it was attached just in case.

Chloe'n'Gigi
06-20-2007, 07:40 AM
Well I am so sorry I haven't replyed in a few days. I did get the tick out and Chloe hasn't gotten sick. I had the vet do a blood test to check and make sure everything is fine and all is normal.
The puppies go next monday to get their first set of shots. gigi's milk has dried up and the puppies are no longer nursing. I am trying to get them used to going outside every few hours. I have set up a little run in the back yard that is ten foot by ten foot and I am letting the puppies go out in that, they seem to like it and I have been taking them outside every three hours for the past three days in the hopes that it gets them used to doing their buisness outside. Thank gosh I have hardwood floors!!
The reason I haven't been online in a few days is because I have been helping out a friend of mine with her cat. The poor litle girl fell out of a large tree and broke her front leg so she is kennel bound for the next few weeks until the cast comes off. The poor girl just lays there lamenting her grief all day long....she purrs when you pet her but when you leave she just lays there huffing and puffing and on the occasion letting out a very mournful sounding meow. She lives across the street from me so I go over during the evening a few times to give her some love and attention. So between my work, the puppies and helping poor Sasha I have had zero time to get onto the internet. I took this week off so hopefully I will be able to clean my house and let you all know how the puppies are doing often like I was able to a few days ago!

Chloe'n'Gigi
07-02-2007, 08:25 PM
Well I tried to reply a few days ago but my computer was not co-operating AT ALL!!
I have been having some rotten luck these past few days. First last week I had a nasty thunderstorm blow over my neighbours tree and it smashed my fence and then the wind blew the rest of it over so for three days I had no fence in my back yard. Then when the company came to fix my fence I had to deal with a bunch of morons who kept walking into my house without knocking and asking me all sorts of stupid questions about my house and my dogs and blah blah blah. I called my landlord when one guy started asking about my security system and told them both I would be calling the police because you don't walk into a strangers house (especially a womans house) and start asking about her security system. Needless to say my landlord is not at all happy with the company or me because I called the cops and he got into a bit of trouble over the entire issue.
One guy kept asking me about the puppies and telling me his little girl really wanted a dog and he would pay me 1000 dollars for one and I told him flat out, they have homes and I wouldn't sell you one no matter how much you payed for him or her.
My friends cat is doing very well now and I no longer have to run across the street to check on her. Her leg is healing very well and the vet said she may be able to get her cast off a week sooner. I am not sure when that will be but my friend is very relieved.
Gigi is going to get spayed on Friday of next week which will be July 13. My mom tried to freak me out and say it is a bad luck day to have her spayed on friday the 13th but I don't believe in stuff like that and also better sooner than later.
I am so happy with the puppies progress. All have gotten their first set of shots (last week). They sent the rest of the day of their shots and half of the next day in siesta....my house was eerily quiet! They are nine week now and absolutly adorable. They have their own little personalities and you can definitely tell the hierarchy of their little pack now. Lola is the queen bee puppy. She is a big bully at food time though so I have to feed them all from seperate dishes and keep them in seperate areas as well otherwise Lola will take Ace's food and she and Shelly will goof off and not eat. Shelly is the second in command and is quite bossy, she and Lola are always scrapping and Gigi is often breaking thr two of them up. Ace on the other hand is a little suck. He is extremely submissive to his sisters and even his mom. Gigi plays very gently with him compared to the girls and Ace seems to prefer playing with Chloe because Chloe is so gentle with him as well.
Ace is a snuggle bug, he loves to cuddle and is very calm for a puppy. Shelly is playful and also like to snuggle, she will be more inclined to play with you while sitting in your lap. Lola is not much for snuggling unless she is tired, she loves to play though and as soon as she sees someone has a toy she is right there ready for action.
I can also tell they are chuhuahua mix for sure. Ace is all white and looks like his mom except his ears are standing up. Shelley is pretty much all tan except for a spot on her belly, back and face and she has ears that are floppy. Lola is apricot and white all over and has erect ears. Lola and Shelly have short soft fur and Ace's fur is like his moms, long and very soft.
I have been taking them outside every one to two hours for potty outside. They are getting used to the routine and I am positive that they are getting the hang of it. They always do their business outside but still have a fiar number of accidents. I don't mind the accidents as they are still puppies and I know that they will not have total control for some time but I think the routine will prepare them and help them in the long run.
Their new homes are all ready for them and we are only waiting for four more weeks before they go there. I am sad that I only have three week with the babies but it is ok, I know I will see them lots!

Morkie4
07-03-2007, 07:58 AM
Sorry about all your troubles..........you sure have been through a lot!!! I know you are going to miss those little ones when they are gone. :( :( But it is so wonderful that you have found good homes for them!!:)

zeek's mom
07-03-2007, 08:24 AM
I am so sorry that you have had these problems. You have done a great job in finding the babies new homes. But I know it is going to be lonesome at your house when they leave. Empty nest syndrome is what I call it. I dread the day that Survivor leaves me. I have gotten more attached to him than any I think.

MalteseJane
07-03-2007, 12:10 PM
My gosh what kind of fence people are these. They don't need to come inside your house to do a fence and asking about your security system ????????? No way. I would have called the police too.
Loved your update on the pups. Yep, the house will feel empty when they leave.

maltesemum
07-03-2007, 02:44 PM
you did the right thing calling the police!

What about pics, do we get to see them before they go to thier new homes:(

zeek's mom
07-03-2007, 03:10 PM
you did the right thing calling the police!

What about pics, do we get to see them before they go to thier new homes:(

I forgot to mention that I would have called the police myself. There is no need for any fence person to come into your home more less ask you about your security system. Back to what is this world coming to!

Morkie4
07-03-2007, 04:04 PM
you did the right thing calling the police!

What about pics, do we get to see them before they go to thier new homes:(

I agree, you should have called the police!!!!!

AND YES PLEASE, CAN WE SEE PICS BEFORE THEY LEAVE TO THEIR FOREVER HOMES??????????????????

Chloe'n'Gigi
07-16-2007, 06:04 PM
I will have the new parents email me lots of pictures when they get to their new homes. My boss has a digital camera and my mother just got a brand new digital camcorder so maybe I can get her to give me a little video of the cuties!

I am sorry I haven't replied in a few weeks. I have had my hands full at work this past week and I have had to bring alot of paper work home so my computer time has been dedicated to work. And not to mention Gigi was spayed on friday. The surgery went very well and the vet was very pleased. I dropped her off at 7 am and picked her up at 9 that evening. She has been sleeping in a kennel in my room for the last few days, just relaxing. The puppies were really upset the first day, especially Ace but they got used to her being gone pretty quickly. They know she is in my room, they walk down the hall to my door and sniff and lick at it until I bring them back to the living room or until they decide to chase Chloe around again. They get lots of love and attention from my neighbour and me. Gosh I have to find a way to pay Linda back for all of her help. She has been great, when I work, she comes over and sits with the puppies for hours and hours. She feeds them plays with them, loves them, takes Chloe and Gigi for walks, she even gave Chloe a bath yesterday because she got into something sticky in the kitchen (I think it was honey). The puppies were chasing her all over trying to lick her face and paws! Oh and they are officially 11 weeks old!

On a sad note, Chloe started licking her paws again. This year she started very early usually she doesn't start getting itchy until end of August and I STILL don't know what she is allergic too. It isn't food and it isn't mold because I have had her tested for that. Poor girl was started to get very raw. I have started giving her benedryl again and that works very good but I have to keep giving it to her until November. I absolutly have to figure out what is making her react like this because it is a pain to have to give her benedryl (which she hates) or even worse prednasone (which makes her swell up like a balloon). I have been watching Gigi and the puppies and none of them are reacting at all so I have no idea what is wrong with Chloe yet.

I was so mad that they came into my house. The one guy opened my back door and was like "excuse me miss, could you call the landlord and tell him we need to ask him a question about the posts?" I was like don't you have a cell phone? And then the second guy, opened my back door when I was in the kitchen and almost let Lola and Gigi outside with all those tools and god knows what dangerous things in my back yard to ask me if he could buy one of the puppies and I freaked out on him. Thats when I called my landlord and the guy left and then when my landlord returned my message to say he was on his way over the guy opened my door AGAIN and started asking me about the security system. I told him shut the door I am calling the cops and he gotmad and went out to pout to his boss. The police came and they talked to the guys and the one who was asking about my security system got a nasty talking to and he left the site for the rest of the day. My landlord was upset because the police were asking him why he wasn't protecting his tenants, but he called me a few days later and said he wasn't agry with me and I did the right thing and he appoligized for not being there the entire time the fence was repaired which I thought was very nice of him to do.

Morkie4
07-16-2007, 07:24 PM
You know, during the summer months, different pestisides are used on lawns for bug control and the like. Do you think perhaps where you have walked her that they have sparyed something on the areas and she is having a reaction to it??? Just a thought. :)

Chloe'n'Gigi
07-17-2007, 03:33 PM
Actually I did think of that but I only walk her in my back field which is public property and is never treated so the worst she gets there is ticks. When I walk her else where I don't let her go into other peoples grass because usually she tries to dig up the nice lawns! My yard isn't treated either and both of the houses on either side of me aren't treated becaue my landlord forbids it. And also people start spraying their lawns with chimicals way before now and if she was allergic she would start itching in April or May not the end of August.
It has to be something environmental like pollen or something. it is such a darn mystery and I feel so bad for the poor baby.

Morkie4
07-18-2007, 12:30 PM
Actually I did think of that but I only walk her in my back field which is public property and is never treated so the worst she gets there is ticks. When I walk her else where I don't let her go into other peoples grass because usually she tries to dig up the nice lawns! My yard isn't treated either and both of the houses on either side of me aren't treated becaue my landlord forbids it. And also people start spraying their lawns with chimicals way before now and if she was allergic she would start itching in April or May not the end of August.
It has to be something environmental like pollen or something. it is such a darn mystery and I feel so bad for the poor baby.

Oh sorry, just a suggestion. Have no clue for you except to see if there are any changes to your home or lawn, flowers, seeds in the grass in your yard, etc.

I Found Nemo
07-19-2007, 01:32 AM
It probably is something in the air, me and Nick were sneezing all week like we had allergies. but then i thought it's July:( I dont know, but I know these babies are so sensitive

kelkiss5
07-19-2007, 02:18 AM
Ahh, you seem to be having your time of it.So gald the babies are doing well, you must be so proud of yourself. I cant wait to see pics.

Chloe'n'Gigi
07-19-2007, 02:56 PM
I was watching a re-run show of the 2006 Westminster Kennel Club Dog SHow and whenever it showed the dogs on tv Ace and Lola kept trying to find them! It was so cute!!! They would watch the tv and then when the dogs disappeared they would go to the side of the entertainment center and then run back to stare at the screen.

Gigi is feeling so much better today, which makes me very happy. She was just laying in her kennel for the entire weekend and all day monday and tuesday. But yesterday she started being a bit more active, like walked around in her kennel and in my bedroom and today she wanted to run around outside but I wouldn't let her. Not just yet, I want her to wait another few days before she startes runing around just in case. She is currently sitting in my room on my bed with Ace looking at me like I am the worst pet mom in the whole wide world because I picked her up and brought her in when she tried to do a "crazy doggy" attack! She has her chewey toys and was playing some gentle tug of war and chase on my bed a little earlier with Ace but I want her to stay calm just until Monday. She isn't licking her stitches so I am not having her wear an e-collar right now but I did notice Chloe trying to lick them today when we were outside so I will have to watch them closely when they are together.

Everyone is doing well. Chloe is on benedryl much to her dismay but hasn't itched since Wednesday morning. Her paws are stained a rusty colour already but she goes for a hair cut in a few days so that should be taken care of then.

Chloe'n'Gigi
08-11-2007, 06:07 PM
The puppies have officially gone to their new homes. They left me five days ago today. It is very quiet here without them and I haven't had as many visitors but I am alright and so is Gigi and Chloe. Surprisingly Ace has taken this change the best so far. He adjusted quickest, I think because he is living right next door and hasn't gone far at all. I see hime everyday still. Lola and Shelly are doing very well and my mother does call me everyday to give me updates. I see my boss everyday and she is always giving me updates and telling me what Shelley has eaten/chewed up (she is not seeming to like the new toys she has and even the ones she went to her new home with have seem to have disappeared), what she has peed or pooed on (she pooed on her pillow the other day.....no more sleeping in her bed until she is housebroken I am told HAHA!). Lola on the other hand is being very shy and is taking a long time to come out of her shell, I am a bit worried about that but not too much. After all she is with my mother who comes to visit me once a week or more on average.
Everyone is doing well and they are all healthy. Gigi got her stitches out and the vet said she healed beautifully and I have started Chloe on a new treatment for her allergies. So far she hasn't licked or itched her paws in four weeks!
And until my next crisis! I thank you for all your help and advice and encouragement and support. I am sure the puppies would never have done so well unless I had found this website. Thank you so much!

MaxJack'sMom
08-12-2007, 10:09 AM
Well, congrads to the empty nester!!! It's nice you will get to keep in touch with all the little ones. Job well done!!:)