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Sassy's Mommy
08-20-2005, 07:04 AM
I know we have all read many articles on vaccinations. It seems to be the belief of most pet owners and their vets that the "L" in the DHLPP vaccine should not be administered unless the doggie lives in a rural location or is in contact with many dogs and or other animals. Fear of reaction is the reason for this concern. I recently read a new article that made a little light bulb go off in my head. Here is what I learned:
In the DHLPP vaccine lets look at the DHPP first. The D (treats against distemper which is a virus), H (treats against hepatitis which is a virus), P (treats against Parainfluenza which is a virus), P (treats against Parvovirus which is a virus) Now the L (treats against Leptosiira which is a bacteria). BINGO! That is why our doggies have the reactions that they do. They are reacting to the bacteria that is being injected into their little bodies. We know that our doggie can react against any part of the vaccine; although, it is more likely that the bacteria part would be a greater risk.
We all know and agree that vaccinations should not be taken lightly. We just sometimes do not understand why certain things happen. I know as for my self, I knew what all of the letters (DHLPP) represented in the vaccine. But I had never in my mind put the virus with the bacteria together.
Hopes this information is useful.
Bailey
08-20-2005, 01:25 PM
I know we have all read many articles on vaccinations. It seems to be the belief of most pet owners and their vets that the "L" in the DHLPP vaccine should not be administered unless the doggie lives in a rural location or is in contact with many dogs and or other animals. Fear of reaction is the reason for this concern. I recently read a new article that made a little light bulb go off in my head. Here is what I learned:
In the DHLPP vaccine lets look at the DHPP first. The D (treats against distemper which is a virus), H (treats against hepatitis which is a virus), P (treats against Parainfluenza which is a virus), P (treats against Parvovirus which is a virus) Now the L (treats against Leptosiira which is a bacteria). BINGO! That is why our doggies have the reactions that they do. They are reacting to the bacteria that is being injected into their little bodies. We know that our doggie can react against any part of the vaccine; although, it is more likely that the bacteria part would be a greater risk.
We all know and agree that vaccinations should not be taken lightly. We just sometimes do not understand why certain things happen. I know as for my self, I knew what all of the letters (DHLPP) represented in the vaccine. But I had never in my mind put the virus with the bacteria together.
Hopes this information is useful.
Sassy's Mom,
My Bailey lives in a subdivision but does have contact with my daughter's 3 Jack Russell Terriers and 3 cats on a daily bases. What is your opinion about Bailey receiving the full vaccine (DHLPP). I know I should check with the vet but wanted your thoughts. I have to make an appointment to get his extra baby teeth out soon if everyone thinks it is time or should I wait longer to see if they come out by themselves. Bailey is 9 months and the sister of Cali also from Cathy's beautiful family of puppies in Brewton. Without Cathy's nurturing Bailey wouldn't be Bailey.
This is a sidebar question. Do all Maltese love to chew on cardboard boxes? Bailey thinks we bought the best present ever when we give him a small cardboard box. I'm curious if this is a result of him having baby teeth being double with permanent teeth. :)
Sassy's Mommy
08-20-2005, 08:49 PM
Sassy's Mom,
My Bailey lives in a subdivision but does have contact with my daughter's 3 Jack Russell Terriers and 3 cats on a daily bases. What is your opinion about Bailey receiving the full vaccine (DHLPP). I know I should check with the vet but wanted your thoughts. I have to make an appointment to get his extra baby teeth out soon if everyone thinks it is time or should I wait longer to see if they come out by themselves. Bailey is 9 months and the sister of Cali also from Cathy's beautiful family of puppies in Brewton. Without Cathy's nurturing Bailey wouldn't be Bailey.
This is a sidebar question. Do all Maltese love to chew on cardboard boxes? Bailey thinks we bought the best present ever when we give him a small cardboard box. I'm curious if this is a result of him having baby teeth being double with permanent teeth. :)
[QUOTE=Bailey][B][COLOR=Navy]Sassy's Mom,
Diane,
The Liptospiro bacteria is spread by animals drinking water that has been contaimenated with the urine from another infected animal. Therefore doggies that are allowed to roam free who may drink from nearby streams or puddles, ditches, canals, etc. would be at risk. Also dogs that may come into contact with wild animals ie raccoons, oposium, rodents, and such are also at risks. For the most part most vets agree that it is not necessary unless you do live in an area where your dog would be at risk. We did give Sassy the complete DHLPP when she had her 1st annual vaccines a year and a half ago. Reason being was that we were cruising our boat to the Bahamas and it was a requirement to get Sassy through Customs. Sassy did have a mild reaction from the shot; however, her vet was on top of the situation and she did fine. This year when she had her vaccines I did not intend to give her the Lepto just the DHPP. In preparation, I had her vet give her a shot of benedryl about 20 minutes before giving the injection. I had told the assistant that I did not want her to receive Lepto and she was supposed to have written it in Sassy's chart. After she had been given her vaccine I picked up the vial and it read DHLPP. Needless to say, this mommy blew a fuse. Not with the vet, but with the assistant that drew the vaccine. Dr. B kept us there for a few minutes and watched her and she did not have a reaction. In fact, you would have never known she had been given a vaccine that day. I think that because it was a one dosage vial she was ok. However, I can assure you that will not happen again. I will tell Dr. B myself what I want Sassy to receive.
As for as Bailey taking the Lepto that would be a decision between you and your vet. Personally, if he isn't around stray or wild animals I would not give it unless it was a requirement in my area. Most dogs living in surburban areas have minimal risks.
I would go on and make the appointment to have the baby teeth removed. Especially if they are not even loose. Chances are that there may be a couple of molars that also did not shed. Sassy was spayed when she was 7 1/2 months old and had 6 residual baby teeth removed. Poor little thing....she drooled on her face from the anethesia. So when I picked her up she looked like she had been through the wringer. They tried to wash her little face but it was still pink with blood. She looked so pitiful.
Cardboard...hahahaha I think all little doggies like cardboard. There is something so facinating about ripping it up. Most little doggies like the core from the inside of toilet paper and or paper towels. I have given them to Sassy a couple of times but I normally take them away before she begins to tear them up.
Special Note:
****Rabies vaccines come in two (2) kinds of vials. A one doseage vial and a multi-dosage vial. Always ask the vet to use the one dosage vial. If the multi-dosage vial is new or has only had a couple of vaccines drawn from it then you are probably ok. However, if the bottle has a lot missing the risk is too great. If the person drawing the meds doesn't shake the vial and mix it well, then by the end of the vial your doggie could receive too much antigen or too much or the dispensing agent (mercury)......bad news......reaction, possibly severe. Not a risk worth taking. If your vet does not have the single dose vial have him open a new bottle. It won't go bad and after all, you are the one paying the bill. You want to pay for the vaccine with money, not your baby's life.
The state of Florida has just this year accepted the 3 year rabies vaccine protocol. Ask your vet for it. In some offices it will not be given unless it is requested. It is a money thing. If someone tries to discourage you by saying something like, but it has more antigen. yadayadayad....That is questionable, some reports (Veterinary Univ) say that it is the exact same vaccine. Some say it may have a little more antigen. Whether it does or not is a chance worth taking. The additional antigen, if any, would probably not be enough to cause a reaction. It is certainly less than your baby would receive taking the vaccine annually. Reports and even vets will tell you that the 1 year vaccine lasts for more than a year. So your doggie would be better off taking the vaccine every three years.
Okay, I stepping down from my little soap box now. hahaha I'm sorry this is so long.
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