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zeek's mom
06-09-2007, 04:54 AM
I have been helping a few people with rearing puppies lately. I feel the need to make a statement as to my feelings about breeding pets. I do not believe that it is good to breed your pets. I am strongly against it. There are several reasons as to why but I will not go into them here. I did not and will not mind helping anyone that needs my assistance. But I need to make my views on breeding pets perfectly clear. I breed to better the breed. And do not in any way condone the breeding of pets in homes that have a male/female pair. Or because you want a baby from a pet that you have. When you breed in such a manner, you are more than likely not going to know about the genetic makeup or what the history behind the dogs are. Another thing is, if you received the dog from a reputable breeder there is a 99% chance that you will be breaking your contract by breeding. And if I were to say that it is OK, I would not be a reputable breeder myself. And that is something that I pride myself in.

I hope I have not hurt any one's feelings here. But I needed to make this fact know to the people on this forum and people that my visit.

mia's mom
06-09-2007, 06:51 AM
People don't think about it that way Becky. They are ignorant. If you knew how many times I have been asked if I was going to breed Mia you would be shocked! I get "oh they would be so cute, so little" or "your losing a meal ticket" or other dumb things. (neither one of my dogs have a no breed clause) I won't breed Mia because 1. she is to little I wouldn't want anything to happen to her, 2. I don't want the responsibility or the heart break of rearing a litter of pups (I use to breed Rotties) 3. I personally don't like the way they look after they have given birth 4. I don't want her to get tumors or cancer by not spaying her. 5. I specifically got her as a pet.

My neighbor came by yesterday and saw Mia was recovering from her operation and frowned at me and shook her head. Wait until I tell her Cody is next!:lol2: :lol2:

Love my Leo
06-09-2007, 07:39 AM
I never thought that you were condoning the actual breedings that took place. But what is done is done and rather than harrass these people, you stepped up and helped them. I think you're great.

I Found Nemo
06-09-2007, 07:41 AM
I never thought that you were condoning the actual breedings that took place. But what is done is done and rather than harrass these people, you stepped up and helped them. I think you're great.

Yes and I agree with that!!!
Andrea:D

zeek's mom
06-09-2007, 08:34 AM
I never thought that you were condoning the actual breedings that took place. But what is done is done and rather than harrass these people, you stepped up and helped them. I think you're great.

Thank You very much. That is such a sweet statement. Everyone that I have came in contact and/or gotten to know here are wonderful people. But you never know who may visit or become a member in the future and think that I condone it because they did not get to know me. I think very highly of all of the people here that I have gotten to know. And once again I want to say thank you to everyone for opening your arms and hearts and letting me become part of the magnificent family.

Morkie4
06-09-2007, 09:52 AM
I never thought that you were condoning the actual breedings that took place. But what is done is done and rather than harrass these people, you stepped up and helped them. I think you're great.

I agree too!:D Except for the one wee part where "LOVE MY LEO" said she thinks you're great!:lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2:




just kidding! Well sort of!:lol2: :lol2: :lol2:

Love my Leo
06-09-2007, 10:00 AM
I agree too!:D Except for the one wee part where "LOVE MY LEO" said she thinks you're great!:lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2:




just kidding! Well sort of!:lol2: :lol2: :lol2:

Hmmmm....trouble maker? :wink5:

Morkie4
06-09-2007, 10:05 AM
Hmmmm....trouble maker? :wink5:

Oh dear you found me out!!!!! And I thought I was being sooooooooo careful!:lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2:

Love my Leo
06-09-2007, 10:14 AM
Oh dear you found me out!!!!! And I thought I was being sooooooooo careful!:lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2:

Me are smart:tongue11: On to you from the get go:lol2:

I Found Nemo
06-09-2007, 10:15 AM
Me are smart:tongue11: On to you from the get go:lol2:

This is nothing, are you kidding me you havent see nothing yet from Carol:D :D

Morkie4
06-09-2007, 10:31 AM
This is nothing, are you kidding me you havent see nothing yet from Carol:D :D

Was that a slam or vote of confidence????:confused: :confused:

Oh and using "haven't" in a sentence (have not).............you should have used "anything" rather than "nothing." Thus avoiding the double negative rule of proper grammer!:lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2:

Love my Leo
06-09-2007, 10:36 AM
This is nothing, are you kidding me you havent see nothing yet from Carol:D :D

Andrea, I'm glad you're here to keep things all warm and fuzzy. Somebody has to keep Carol in line:lol2: :lol2: :lol2:

Cathy

Love my Leo
06-09-2007, 10:39 AM
Was that a slam or vote of confidence????:confused: :confused:

Oh and using "haven't" in a sentence (have not).............you should have used "anything" rather than "nothing." Thus avoiding the double negative rule of proper grammer!:lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2:

OMG! The grammer police?:confuse2:

Morkie4
06-09-2007, 10:40 AM
Andrea, I'm glad you're here to keep things all warm and fuzzy. Somebody has to keep Carol in line:lol2: :lol2: :lol2:

Cathy

Ummm, Andrea can't handle me either!!!! Can ya A??????:lol2: :lol2: :lol2:

Andrea, warm and fuzzy??????????? She's an Italian!!!:hearter: :hearter:

Morkie4
06-09-2007, 10:41 AM
OMG! The grammer police?:confuse2:

You catch on quick...........I'm well pleased!:D :D :D

zeek's mom
06-09-2007, 10:42 AM
Was that a slam or vote of confidence????:confused: :confused:

Oh and using "haven't" in a sentence (have not).............you should have used "anything" rather than "nothing." Thus avoiding the double negative rule of proper grammer!:lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2:

:tongue11: :thinking: :tongue6:

I Found Nemo
06-09-2007, 10:45 AM
Was that a slam or vote of confidence????:confused: :confused:

Oh and using "haven't" in a sentence (have not).............you should have used "anything" rather than "nothing." Thus avoiding the double negative rule of proper grammer!:lol2:

:lol2: :lol2: :lol2: Oh lord..It was a compliment nutty:lol2: :lol2: :lol2:

Morkie4
06-09-2007, 10:46 AM
:tongue11: :thinking: :tongue6:

Such a gross lack of appreciation for the English language and my intellectual side!

Helen
06-09-2007, 10:47 AM
may i add,,,,

Becky, iam so glad that you have helped me so much, and that you did not ask any question before you helped me, i could of been one of these people that just want a money making machine, for people like me who thinks that they are just (doing the right thing) for their pets you are so helpful, i have said it before and i will say it again, you ALL are wonderful people, i honestly think that i would not have any puppies left (maybe even Milly) if it wasnt for all your advice, so thank you, i just hope that others can understand how important to breed the correct way and for the right reasons,:hearter:

bek74
06-09-2007, 04:16 PM
Bec it is so easy to see why alot of people do breed their pets. Sammy Maree and Max are both desexed, because I didn't want to do the whole puppy thing, and also because I found a forum and learnt that in the best interest of the pup, you shouldn't breed.
Before that, I had heard it was always better to let then have at least 1 or 2 litters before spaying the female, some people say one thing while others say different.
I now also look at your pics of your beautiful babies ( and others) and then thought of watching these beautiful creatures grow up around me, and think wouldn't that be wonderful ( I would enjoy it). Then I read the sad stories of loss and heartache and thank god I decided NOT to breed my babies and to have them desexed.
I DO understand why people do it. Some do it, to make a buck and that I don't agree with, and others do it for the love and experience, and not know any better, those people I do understand how you feel, at times I have thought " What beautiful babies my Sammy Maree and Max would have, and how much fun would it be". I can't breed mine and wouldn't, out of FEAR of something going wrong, I couldn't bare lossing my babies, I just couldn't.

Bec you have been so wonderful helping members here with their babies and haven't judged. I think your wonderful for that. It shows just how much you care. HUGS

zeek's mom
06-09-2007, 05:47 PM
I need to add something about the love and care that this group has. Twice this week I have came to the computer first thing in the morning and received urgent messages im'ing me to come and help. Worried sick about Helen and her babies. It was two separate people. If that is not love and devotion to one another I do not know what is. I have never experienced such love before outside of my family and mentors. It is a wonderful feeling to know that we have such a close knit family here that we watch out for each other and truly care about one another. I knew when I wrote this statement that I would be supported by EVERYONE and it felt really good to know that. Just as Helen has stated I don't know what I would do without all of you now that I have found you.

I Found Nemo
06-09-2007, 05:55 PM
I need to add something about the love and care that this group has. Twice this week I have came to the computer first thing in the morning and received urgent messages im'ing me to come and help. Worried sick about Helen and her babies. It was two separate people. If that is not love and devotion to one another I do not know what is. I have never experienced such love before outside of my family and mentors. It is a wonderful feeling to know that we have such a close knit family here that we watch out for each other and truly care about one another. I knew when I wrote this statement that I would be supported by EVERYONE and it felt really good to know that. Just as Helen has stated I don't know what I would do without all of you now that I have found you.

:hearter: Thats really sweet Becky and thank you for saying that.
When I fist came here thats all I wanted was it to be a friendly, nonjudgmental place where everyone could feel comfortable. I want everyone to be able to post whatever questions they may have and feel comfortable about it, it makes me happy. That aspect of MT will never change I wont let it..:D We are happy you are with us also . Your knowledge and compassion will be a nice addition here...
Andrea

bogiesmom
06-09-2007, 07:49 PM
It is only through groups such as this that I have come to understand what responsible breeding is. Previous to getting my Bogie, I thought people that bred and showed dogs were snobs like people who only buy designer clothes or handbags. I had no understanding of genetic problems, and that this was something that could be controlled. I knew puppy mills were bad, so I went to the newspaper to find my maltese. I now know Bogie came from a BYB. I do believe this women loved her dogs, but I doubt any research or thought went into the breeding. The breeder told me the female was registered, but the male was not. I was so enthalled with Bogie, that I asked very few questions. The only thing this woman wanted from me was cash. I never knew to ask for a health guarantee or anything else. Bogie was 8 weeks old. His sister had gone to her new home the week before. Thank God for people like Becky and many others that helped me take care of Bogie. There were a number of health issues and a vet that I feel did not know enough about Maltese that I had to deal with. Thank you to all of the Becky's out there that helped me raise the most wonderful companion ever. Bogie is so much more than a dog or pet, and without help and advise from some of you out there, he wouldn't be with me today.

Most pet owners are not uncaring just not informed. The smart ones ask for help. The others just think they know it all.

KMitchell
06-09-2007, 08:20 PM
Most pet owners are not uncaring just not informed. The smart ones ask for help. The others just think they know it all.

I couldnt agree with you more! I had done some research before getting Mia but had once I found you guys I realized I knew next to nothing about caring for her. This is my first pet EVER and I am so glad to have such a wonderful group to help guide through puppyhood and the wonderful years to come with Mia. We BOTH really appreciate it! Mia wanted to add: "WOOF WOOF, I wub you all":lol2:

I Found Nemo
06-10-2007, 01:58 AM
Andrea, I'm glad you're here to keep things all warm and fuzzy. Somebody has to keep Carol in line:lol2:

Cathy

:eek: :dizzy: :eek: Oh Cathy, you have described me perfectly:blush: I kept telling Carol I am warm and fuzzy but she didn't believe me:mad: it took a person like you Cathy to see me for what I truly am. See Carol you are wrong I am warm and fuzzy and my hot temper has calmed down, its not my fault it's the Italian in me:blush: So again Cathy thanks so much for seeing the true me it's so refreshing when the truth comes out, aint it:D






























Now if you believe all that I got that bridge I have been trying to sell..
ME, warm and fuzzy:sidesplit: :sidesplit: Oh lord Cathy ya dont know me do ya.........LOL
But thanks for the compliment, I appreciate it though

Love my Leo
06-10-2007, 09:18 AM
:eek: :dizzy: :eek: Oh Cathy, you have described me perfectly:blush: I kept telling Carol I am warm and fuzzy but she didn't believe me:mad: it took a person like you Cathy to see me for what I truly am. See Carol you are wrong I am warm and fuzzy and my hot temper has calmed down, its not my fault it's the Italian in me:blush: So again Cathy thanks so much for seeing the true me it's so refreshing when the truth comes out, aint it:D
































Now if you believe all that I got that bridge I have been trying to sell..
ME, warm and fuzzy:sidesplit: :sidesplit: Oh lord Cathy ya dont know me do ya.........LOL
But thanks for the compliment, I appreciate it though

Ah, come on now...I know there's some warm and fuzzy in there, Andrea, It just takes a special person to recognize it!:wink5:

I Found Nemo
06-10-2007, 09:54 AM
Ah, come on now...I know there's some warm and fuzzy in there, Andrea, It just takes a special person to recognize it!:wink5:

So how do you know me again:p it seems like you do..Ok let on do I know ya!!:D

Morkie4
06-10-2007, 12:15 PM
So how do you know me again:p it seems like you do..Ok let on do I know ya!!:D

She has to know you or she wouldn't be calling you warm and fuzzy.:lol2: :lol2:

I Found Nemo
06-10-2007, 12:17 PM
:D She has to know you or she wouldn't be calling you warm and fuzzy.:lol2: :lol2:

I guess she does:D :lol2: :lol2:

Morkie4
06-10-2007, 12:24 PM
:D

I guess she does:D :lol2: :lol2:

Soooooooo, who is she?:confused: :confused:

I Found Nemo
06-10-2007, 12:31 PM
Soooooooo, who is she?:confused: :confused:

I dont know you tell me:confused: I know you know ..:D

maltesemum
06-10-2007, 12:32 PM
I dont know you tell me:confused: I know you know ..:D


So somebody please tell me............please:fainted:

Morkie4
06-10-2007, 01:29 PM
I dont know you tell me:confused: I know you know ..:D

So somebody please tell me............please:fainted:

I HAVE NO CLUE...............Andrea, you must know her!:confused: :confused:

Love my Leo
06-10-2007, 05:11 PM
So how do you know me again:p it seems like you do..Ok let on do I know ya!!:D

:lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2: OMG! I come back to this?? I'm confused... Andrea must be a warm and fuzzy person.

Carol even admitted it!!

"She has to know you or she wouldn't be calling you warm and fuzzy."

I Found Nemo
06-10-2007, 05:13 PM
:lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2: OMG! I come back to this?? I'm confused... Andrea must be a warm and fuzzy person.

Carol even admitted it!!

"She has to know you or she wouldn't be calling you warm and fuzzy."

:confused: Oh lord Im confused..We meant you must know me:lol2: :lol2: so do ya????
Andrea:D

Love my Leo
06-10-2007, 05:19 PM
:confused: Oh lord Im confused..We meant you must know me:lol2: :lol2: so do ya????
Andrea:D

Just recently from this forum, silly:D But I will say that it appears you reach out and make new members feel very welcome! So if anyone says your not warm and fuzzy I should not believe them??? Right?

zeek's mom
06-10-2007, 05:27 PM
heheheheheheeeee If only you knew.................

I Found Nemo
06-10-2007, 05:29 PM
Just recently from this forum, silly:D But I will say that it appears you reach out and make new members feel very welcome! So if anyone says your not warm and fuzzy I should not believe them??? Right?

AWWW thanks, and no DONT believe them they are just jealous of me cause I am warm and fuzzy:D

Love my Leo
06-10-2007, 05:35 PM
AWWW thanks, and no DONT believe them they are just jealous of me cause I am warm and fuzzy:D

:lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2:

Morkie4
06-10-2007, 06:04 PM
AWWW thanks, and no DONT believe them they are just jealous of me cause I am warm and fuzzy:D

Oh yea, I'm really really jealous of you!!!:lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2: When pigs learn to fly maybe!:lol2: :lol2: :lol2:

I Found Nemo
06-10-2007, 07:17 PM
Oh yea, I'm really really jealous of you!!!:lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2: When pigs learn to fly maybe!:lol2: :lol2: :lol2:

:tounge: :tounge: :lol2:

Morkie4
06-10-2007, 07:21 PM
:tounge: :tounge: :lol2:

ROFL.......................:lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2: Did I leave you speechless????:confused:

zeek's mom
06-10-2007, 07:23 PM
Jealous, Carol did she say we are jealous of her......if she only knew just how jealous I am........................NOT I know that I am the most warm and fuzziest one here!!!!!!!!!!

I Found Nemo
06-10-2007, 07:32 PM
Everyone dont pay attention to Becky and Carol, see I told you all they are so jealous of my fuzzyness

Morkie4
06-10-2007, 07:51 PM
Everyone dont pay attention to Becky and Carol, see I told you all they are so jealous of my fuzzyness

I see you dropped the "warm" and are just fuzzy now!!!!:lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2:

I Found Nemo
06-11-2007, 02:11 AM
I see you dropped the "warm" and are just fuzzy now!!!!:lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2:

:mad: Ya know Carol you should be a friggin comedian:mad:
I am friggin warm and fuzzy:mad: :mad: :p

maltesemum
06-11-2007, 05:04 AM
:mad: Ya know Carol you should be a friggin comedian:mad:
I am friggin warm and fuzzy:mad: :mad: :p


Yes, you are very warm & fuzzy...i can vouch for that:D

Morkie4
06-11-2007, 09:26 AM
:mad: Ya know Carol you should be a friggin comedian:mad:
I am friggin warm and fuzzy:mad: :mad: :p

I'm just pointing out what you yourself said.............not adding or taking away from your warm and fuzzy self, just repeating you!!!:hearter: :hearter:

Morkie4
06-11-2007, 09:27 AM
Yes, you are very warm & fuzzy...i can vouch for that:D

And so tell me, what makes Andrea warm and fuzzy??????

zeek's mom
06-11-2007, 09:54 AM
And so tell me, what makes Andrea warm and fuzzy??????

I know I know, she is warm because she lives in Florida..right? And fuzzy cause of the dogs and/or slippers.....Makes since to me.

mia's mom
06-11-2007, 10:02 AM
No Becky...Andrea lives in NY so she might be cold & fridged...but we all know she's not!!!! She is a sweetie even though she can confuse herself!:D :D :D See :iheartu: Andrea!

maltesemum
06-11-2007, 11:30 AM
And so tell me, what makes Andrea warm and fuzzy??????

Well, the sound from her microphone offcourse:lol2:

Morkie4
06-11-2007, 11:32 AM
Well, the sound from her microphone offcourse:lol2:

She must use a different voice when she talks with me!!!!:lol2: :lol2: :lol2:

Morkie4
06-11-2007, 11:33 AM
I know I know, she is warm because she lives in Florida..right? And fuzzy cause of the dogs and/or slippers.....Makes since to me.

Becky, you need some much needed rest!!! :asleep: :asleep: :asleep: :asleep:

I Found Nemo
06-12-2007, 04:12 AM
She must use a different voice when she talks with me!!!!:lol2: :lol2: :lol2:

:mad: I knew it, you hate my voice admit it....Thats why you haven't called me since:mad: and everyone should know Carol haunted me for days to get this friggin micro and now she never calls me:( she hates my NY voice:dizzy: :sickie: :dizzy: :sickie:

I Found Nemo
06-12-2007, 04:13 AM
Well, the sound from her microphone offcourse:lol2:

Thanks Elaine at least I know you love me and my voice:hearter: unlike some people:mad:

I Found Nemo
06-12-2007, 04:14 AM
:confused: How did this thread go from breeding to this crap:lol2: :lol2:

Love my Leo
06-14-2007, 12:39 AM
:confused: How did this thread go from breeding to this crap:lol2: :lol2:

"morph":lol2:

bek74
06-14-2007, 02:49 AM
Just wait till you hear my Aussie voice :lol2: :lol2: :lol2:

I Found Nemo
06-14-2007, 03:17 AM
"morph":lol2:

Yup see it was her fault, im friggin innocent:D

I Found Nemo
06-14-2007, 03:18 AM
Just wait till you hear my Aussie voice :lol2: :lol2: :lol2:

aww me and you Bek we are gonna make history:lol2: :lol2: :lol2: I hope my voice dont scare ya:o :o :D

maltesemum
06-14-2007, 03:23 AM
aww me and you Bek we are gonna make history:lol2: :lol2: :lol2: I hope my voice dont scare ya:o :o :D


LOL

i spoke with Harriett earlier, she has a great accent:hearter:

I Found Nemo
06-14-2007, 03:27 AM
LOL

i spoke with Harriett earlier, she has a great accent:hearter:

:lol2: :lol2: :lol2: She is gonna call me later................LOL this should be so funny, me the whole time saying WHAT:lol2: :lol2: