Tear Stains

[ladyjazz]

Hey guys,

Ok so can you guys re-post all of your tear stain remedies. As most of you probably know, Cosmo's tear stains are out of control. Hopefully they will slow down now that all of his baby teeth have been pulled but we will see. So post away everyone:)

[I Found Nemo]

:D I still feel Tylan is the best thing to use, just my opinion.
I am sure once the teething stops it will get better, if not do the Tylan..

Good Luck,
ANDREA~:D

[Morkie4]

I'm with Andrea, give it a little bit more time for the tearstains to clear since he doesnt have the baby teething problem......then do the Tylan. I use the angel eyes but only because I bought it first and it is way more money than the Tylan (both have the same antibiotic in them). But I also have the Tylan. It has really helped with Kallie's eyes and once I can get my act together I will post some before and after pics. But I did use some of the home remedies before I got clued into the tylan/angel eyes solution. I'll have to dig through my records for the home remedies for stains.:fainted:

[bek74]

On another forum ( most people know which one) someone suggest Polydent whitening tablets and I must say it worked. After Sammy had her 1st Patella operation she suffered really bad staining ( never before the op) and I tried the polydent and it worked. I had to do it a few times over the period of the month and it all went away.
Mine now get very minimal amounts and I just clean there faces daily and it is under control.

1 polydent whitening tablet to 50mls warm water, apply to area being careful NOT to get it in the eye, let it dry in and wash out the next morning ( apply in the evening, and DON'T rub it into there skin).

[maltesemum]

On another forum ( most people know which one) someone suggest Polydent whitening tablets and I must say it worked. After Sammy had her 1st Patella operation she suffered really bad staining ( never before the op) and I tried the polydent and it worked. I had to do it a few times over the period of the month and it all went away.
Mine now get very minimal amounts and I just clean there faces daily and it is under control.

1 polydent whitening tablet to 50mls warm water, apply to area being careful NOT to get it in the eye, let it dry in and wash out the next morning ( apply in the evening, and DON'T rub it into there skin).


I'm going to try this again as the first time i dont think it had much affect.

When you mixed it did it become frothy? & did you apply the froth or the liquid?

I think i will get someone to send me over Tylan from the states as it's only available here on prescription & i dont know if my vet will give me one for a little tear staining. He'll say i'm nuts:tongue6: now you dont all need to agree to that one:p

[bek74]

I'm going to try this again as the first time i dont think it had much affect.

When you mixed it did it become frothy? & did you apply the froth or the liquid?

I think i will get someone to send me over Tylan from the states as it's only available here on prescription & i dont know if my vet will give me one for a little tear staining. He'll say i'm nuts:tongue6: now you dont all need to agree to that one:p

I can't get tylan here in Aussie at all ( well at least I couldn't find any). I applied the liquid, and it didn't work first time, I had to do it a few times. Polydent won't fix the problem, it only helps clean the face. I need something to FIX the problem from the inside, like Tylan. I have heard so much about it, but I can't get it here either. All the good stuff is in the US,
NOT FARE:p :p :p , LOL

[Jadey]

donbi's stain got a lot better!!!
tylan helped, but i stopped i gave it for a week 2 times a day with her food, she eats anything :)
anyways, what really helped was the food i think, i switched her to wellness duck potatoe, and eagle pack duck potatoe
and my goodness 3 days! its been dry :D a lot better! i love it and her poop comes out nice and firm not too firm but u know not water down

[ladyjazz]

Well with Cosmo I am still losing the War against Tear Stains. I have not seen an improvement yet since the new wellness food I am feeding him and sice he had his teeth pulled, but we will see. Keep your fingers crossed everyone.:)

[maltesemum]

Well with Cosmo I am still losing the War against Tear Stains. I have not seen an improvement yet since the new wellness food I am feeding him and sice he had his teeth pulled, but we will see. Keep your fingers crossed everyone.:)

:crossfin: Dont worry about it too much Crystal, wait till he is older & then combat the problem:D

[ladyjazz]

:crossfin: Dont worry about it too much Crystal, wait till he is older & then combat the problem:D

Yea I am not going to get too crazy. I will worry after he is a year old. Then if its still there I will really tackle it:)

[kc999]

I just ordered angel's eyes last week, waitin for it to come. I didn't know tylan and angel eyes were the same thing. I thought I read somewhere before that we shouldn't be giving puppies under 8 mo or 1 yr tylan..? so does this mean angel eyes is not okay even if the instructions says it's okay for puppies over 6 weeks of age?:confused:

[maltesemum]

I just ordered angel's eyes last week, waitin for it to come. I didn't know tylan and angel eyes were the same thing. I thought I read somewhere before that we shouldn't be giving puppies under 8 mo or 1 yr tylan..? so does this mean angel eyes is not okay even if the instructions says it's okay for puppies over 6 weeks of age?:confused:

I'm not sure:confused: but i think it's cause they are still teething when puppies & it may not help if teeth are still coming in. Also, it is an antibiotic & so should be used sparingly.

Hopefully someone else will be able to advise better.

[dogloverx4]

Okay I know I'm engaged to a vet - but am I the only one who has a problem with feeding my dog an non prescription antibiotic long term ? Tylan and Angel glow are an illegal product in Australia - all the vets I've spoken too are not impressed at all with the U.S practices . Feeding any antibiotic long term is detrimental to a dogs health - even small amounts can build up in their systems - and mean that no antibiotic will work effectively . These products often mask real underlying health issues - such as allergies , blocked tear ducts or entropion problems . Feeding this to a puppy and before the adult teeth come in , will ruin the teeth . Sarah

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[kc999]

I didn't know angel eyes was an antibiotic..:confused: maybe I should just wait it out till she's 8 months of age atleast, she's 5 months now.

[maltesemum]

Okay I know I'm engaged to a vet - but am I the only one who has a problem with feeding my dog an non prescription antibiotic long term ? Tylan and Angel glow are an illegal product in Australia - all the vets I've spoken too are not impressed at all with the U.S practices . Feeding any antibiotic long term is detrimental to a dogs health - even small amounts can build up in their systems - and mean that no antibiotic will work effectively . These products often mask real underlying health issues - such as allergies , blocked tear ducts or entropion problems . Feeding this to a puppy and before the adult teeth come in , will ruin the teeth . Sarah

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I agree, do check to see if any underlying problems exist.

Why do you think it's illegal Sarah, just interested.

[maltesemum]

Yikes! I didn't know angel eyes was an antibiotic..:confused: maybe I should just wait it out till she's 8 months of age atleast, she's 5 months now.

Yes, i would wait till she is an adult & just try to keep her face really clean with daily washing to stop yeast growing in the hair & this will help quite a bit.

[dogloverx4]

Because people should not self prescribe . All those over the counter products contain derivatives of tetracycline - an antibotic . Sarah

[dogloverx4]

Try mixing up some MOM paste ( milk of magnesium , hydrogen peroxide and corn flour ) mix into a thick paste and apply under the eyes . Wait until it dries completely , then wash out - remember to condition the hair , it can be drying . Sarah
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[maltesemum]

Because people should not self prescribe . All those over the counter products contain derivatives of tetracycline - an antibotic . Sarah

So you could get it as a prescription from a vet in australia?

It is only available as a prescription over here & i would'nt ask my vet for it as it's only cosmetic & to be honest they have very little staining.

[maltesemum]

Try mixing up some MOM paste ( milk of magnesium , hydrogen peroxide and corn flour ) mix into a thick paste and apply under the eyes . Wait until it dries completely , then wash out - remember to condition the hair , it can be drying . Sarah
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Have you tried this method Sarah?

Is this peroxide the same as the stuff for bleaching human hair? I know this comes in different strengths, so what should i use?

[dogloverx4]

Yes it works like a charm - I like 3% strength peroxide purchased at any chemist . Sarah P.S Tylan - is not available from our vets - it is an antibiotic used for cosmetic purposes .

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[kc999]

the groomers from petsmart told me to use distilled water, boil it, let it cool down and use it to wipe the face. she said this works pretty good. I'm going to try it for the time being, so far I just use the tear stain solution from the pet store and warm water everyday.. doesn't seem to help much. Lulu has really really bad tear stains, I'm going to start switching her food this week.

[maltesemum]

the groomers from petsmart told me to use distilled water, boil it, let it cool down and use it to wipe the face. she said this works pretty good. I'm going to try it for the time being, so far I just use the tear stain solution from the pet store and warm water everyday.. doesn't seem to help much. Lulu has really really bad tear stains, I'm going to start switching her food this week.

Switching food is also a good idea & i've heard good reports about Wellness, but since i dont get it over here i'm sure others will help you out here.

Sarah, it is used over here for treating livestock but i'm pretty sure they dont have tear stains:lol2:

[kc999]

that's what I ordered, Wellness. I switched her from nutro to royal canin and I think that's part of what's making her tear stains worse but it wasn't good to begin with :o I hope she'll take her new food tho, she has to be one of the MOST pickiest eaters..:(

[kijibwa]

When I took Kizi to the vet last week to get a thorough check up, one of the things she suggested for the tear staining was 2 teaspoons of unpasturised cider vinegar in her drinking water (500mls) and change it each day.
Has anyone tried this? Or even heard of it?

Erin & Kizi

[I Found Nemo]

that's what I ordered, Wellness. I switched her from nutro to royal canin and I think that's part of what's making her tear stains worse but it wasn't good to begin with :o I hope she'll take her new food tho, she has to be one of the MOST pickiest eaters..:(
Hi,
Nemo never had tearstains, He was also on Nutro. Nutro is a good food, but for some reason made Nemo tear like crazy. He is now on Wellness(For like 3 or 4 months). As soon as I stopped the Nutro the stains went away..

Good Luck:goodluck:

ANDREA~

[Morkie4]

When I took Kizi to the vet last week to get a thorough check up, one of the things she suggested for the tear staining was 2 teaspoons of unpasturised cider vinegar in her drinking water (500mls) and change it each day.
Has anyone tried this? Or even heard of it?

Erin & Kizi
Yes, I actually learned about it from a fellow MT member. I used 1 teaspoon of the "unfiltered" vinegar from the health food store to a quart of distilled water.........BUT I also have used the tylan antibiotic for the tear stains........so hard to know which is actually doing the trick of getting rid of the tear stains. With antibiotics, it is important to remember if you are going to use them, not to keep them on it for a long time and to only use it after they have lost their baby teeth. My vet prescribed the tetracyline for the tear staining. I have also tried the MOM treatment and you ABSOLUTELY need to condition to keep the hair from frizzing and breaking. Condition - condition - condition. But it removed staining.

[lilybellesmom]

I've used Tylan with great results. Although, I've only used it for 10 days and I use only a smidgen. I used it only after she finished teething.

[dashmaltimom]

What about the Visine mentioned on the Maltese only site? Has anyone tried this every day? I just got a puppy. He is 12 weeks old and has some tear staining. My vet recommended we wait to consider eye ointments with antibiotics in them since his staining is not too bad and he was afraid this might encourage yeast/fungus...he did say to get some mild over the counter eye drops for him at the pharmacy and do that twice a day for a while.
Has anyone tried this? Also, my puppy is on Eukanuba... Any thoughts?
Brenda

[CootnSadie]

Hey guys,

Ok so can you guys re-post all of your tear stain remedies. As most of you probably know, Cosmo's tear stains are out of control. Hopefully they will slow down now that all of his baby teeth have been pulled but we will see. So post away everyone:)

Hey LadyJazz!

I've got your remedy! I had the same problem with my Maltepoo, Sadie, as did my mother with her Maltese, Coot. We've battled over 2 years with them, especially Coot. I hoped the same thing when Sadie was teething, but it got worse. We both started them on Angels' Glow in January and it's amazing! We both had 100% results in as little as 10 days for Sadie, 14 days for Coot. I was so elated that I'd found something that actually worked that I started offering it on my site, SlideCollars.com. I offer free shipping that the Angels' Glow site doesn't. And it's fully guaranteed or your money back. Call me if you like....I've tried everything! My number is on the site. This stuff has really excited me, and it's all natural. My mother tried the Tylan and it didn't work and Coot was sick all the time. It's a prescription antibiotic you put in their water. Antibiotics on a permanent basis can weaken a human's or animal's immune system and kills good bacteria in the process...NOT GOOD. I'm an Pediatric RN and I know my medications! I'm not a salesperson, just someone who found something that works and would like to share that success with others. I'm so happy with Sadie's pretty little face now. Do call if you have any questions. I welcome new pet buddies!

[maltesemum]

Hey LadyJazz!

I've got your remedy! I had the same problem with my Maltepoo, Sadie, as did my mother with her Maltese, Coot. We've battled over 2 years with them, especially Coot. I hoped the same thing when Sadie was teething, but it got worse. We both started them on Angels' Glow in January and it's amazing! We both had 100% results in as little as 10 days for Sadie, 14 days for Coot. I was so elated that I'd found something that actually worked that I started offering it on my site, SlideCollars.com. I offer free shipping that the Angels' Glow site doesn't. And it's fully guaranteed or your money back. Call me if you like....I've tried everything! My number is on the site. This stuff has really excited me, and it's all natural. My mother tried the Tylan and it didn't work and Coot was sick all the time. It's a prescription antibiotic you put in their water. Antibiotics on a permanent basis can weaken a human's or animal's immune system and kills good bacteria in the process...NOT GOOD. I'm an Pediatric RN and I know my medications! I'm not a salesperson, just someone who found something that works and would like to share that success with others. I'm so happy with Sadie's pretty little face now. Do call if you have any questions. I welcome new pet buddies!


Angels Glow contains the Tylan too!

I'm happy you've had some success with it, i like a nice white face:D

[Malteseluv]

I know I don't have a maltese yet :( But I have read somewhere about Eye Envy, has anyone tried that? And if so how does it work? Just a suggestion, I have no clue, and cannot give first-hand experience as my mom's malt mix does not have tear stains.

[Morkie4]

I know I don't have a maltese yet :( But I have read somewhere about Eye Envy, has anyone tried that? And if so how does it work? Just a suggestion, I have no clue, and cannot give first-hand experience as my mom's malt mix does not have tear stains.
Spent the money, tried it and it does not work!:mad:

[Morkie4]

Hey LadyJazz!

I've got your remedy! I had the same problem with my Maltepoo, Sadie, as did my mother with her Maltese, Coot. We've battled over 2 years with them, especially Coot. I hoped the same thing when Sadie was teething, but it got worse. We both started them on Angels' Glow in January and it's amazing! We both had 100% results in as little as 10 days for Sadie, 14 days for Coot. I was so elated that I'd found something that actually worked that I started offering it on my site, SlideCollars.com. I offer free shipping that the Angels' Glow site doesn't. And it's fully guaranteed or your money back. Call me if you like....I've tried everything! My number is on the site. This stuff has really excited me, and it's all natural. My mother tried the Tylan and it didn't work and Coot was sick all the time. It's a prescription antibiotic you put in their water. Antibiotics on a permanent basis can weaken a human's or animal's immune system and kills good bacteria in the process...NOT GOOD. I'm an Pediatric RN and I know my medications! I'm not a salesperson, just someone who found something that works and would like to share that success with others. I'm so happy with Sadie's pretty little face now. Do call if you have any questions. I welcome new pet buddies!
Yes, I purchased the angel's glow and it does have an antibiotic in it; actually the same antibiotic that is in the Tylan........I checked the bottles and could not believe my eyes. But it does work!!!! The key is to give them Activia(yogurt w/ live bacteria cultures) so that you have good bacteria being replaced when you use either angel eyes or Tylan. Got that idea from my Doctor!!! I give them the vanilla and they love it! But I have used both the angel's glow and the Tylan and just wrap a small amount in a small piece of cheese......they don't even know they are eating it. LOL

[Kanga]

When I took Kizi to the vet last week to get a thorough check up, one of the things she suggested for the tear staining was 2 teaspoons of unpasturised cider vinegar in her drinking water (500mls) and change it each day.
Has anyone tried this? Or even heard of it?

Erin & Kizi


I use that and it does work. It changes the PH balance of the tears and prevents the bacteria from staining the face. I also make a concerted effort to keep Scrappy's face dry. I am constantly throughout the day dabbing his face with a makeup pad to dry his tears.

Scrappy has blocked tear ducts. Some of these remedies will not work unless the underlying problem has been diagnosed.

Elaine you are right tetracycline is used for farm animals and poultry and for aquariums here in Au.

So while it needs to be prescribed you can buy it over the counter as an antibiotic for aquariums.

[Morkie4]

I use that and it does work. It changes the PH balance of the tears and prevents the bacteria from staining the face. I also make a concerted effort to keep Scrappy's face dry. I am constantly throughout the day dabbing his face with a makeup pad to dry his tears.

Scrappy has blocked tear ducts. Some of these remedies will not work unless the underlying problem has been diagnosed.

Elaine you are right tetracycline is used for farm animals and poultry and for aquariums here in Au.

So while it needs to be prescribed you can buy it over the counter as an antibiotic for aquariums.
I took your suggestion about the vinegar you gave me over a month ago and they weren't crazy about it at first but now, they culp it down with no problems. So thanks for that tip!!! Just in case I didn't thank you back then!

As far as the Tylan (contains tylosin which is an antibiotic).....I ordered it off the internet. And it says pretty much what you said that it was for farm animals, poultry and aquariums. The tetracycline I had to get from the vet! But I'm not a chemist or medical person so they may the same thing, one being a more high tech name!

[I Found Nemo]

:( :mad: Eye Envy was terrible, I tried it also. All it does is makes the pink on the eye come out..
Dont even waste you money , anyone reading this thread..
ANDREA~

[MaxJack'sMom]

Yes, I purchased the angel's glow and it does have an antibiotic in it; actually the same antibiotic that is in the Tylan........I checked the bottles and could not believe my eyes. But it does work!!!! The key is to give them Activia(yogurt w/ live bacteria cultures) so that you have good bacteria being replaced when you use either angel eyes or Tylan. Got that idea from my Doctor!!! I give them the vanilla and they love it! But I have used both the angel's glow and the Tylan and just wrap a small amount in a small piece of cheese......they don't even know they are eating it. LOL

Carol---are saying to give the Activia with the Angel Eyes? How much yogurt do you give at a time and how many times a day?
I give Jack his Angel Eyes in his evening meal.
Cheryl:thankyou:

[Malteseluv]

Spent the money, tried it and it does not work!:mad:
Well, I'm glad I asked about it before I bought it! You guys are great :)

[Morkie4]

Carol---are saying to give the Activia with the Angel Eyes? How much yogurt do you give at a time and how many times a day?
I give Jack his Angel Eyes in his evening meal.
Cheryl:thankyou:
Cheryl,
No, I give the angel eyes in a piece of cheese. I cut a little square top and bottom piece of white american cheese and put a smidge of the angel eyes on top of one piece and then put the other cut piece on top and crimp the edges together. They have it down before they know what it was. My kids love cheese. I usually give them one tablespoon of vanilla yogurt a day when they are on either the angel eyes or Tylan as a reward.

[MaxJack'sMom]

[QUOTE=Morkie4]Cheryl,
No, I give the angel eyes in a piece of cheese. I cut a little square top and bottom piece of white american cheese and put a smidge of the angel eyes on top of one piece and then put the other cut piece on top and crimp the edges together. They have it down before they know what it was. My kids love cheese. I usually give them one tablespoon of vanilla yogurt a day when they are on either the angel eyes or Tylan as a reward.[/QUOTE

Carol--thanks. That yogurt is actually on sale right now, so I'm going to go get some and give it a try. Jack licks his dinner bowl clean, I could actually eat out of it myself when he's done!!!!

[Morkie4]

:D :D Mine do the exact same thing......their bowls always look clean as they eat it as soon as I put it down. They especially LOVE it when I mix fresh salmon in with their food! hee hee:D

[dashmaltimom]

Please realize that I am quite new to this...I have a 12 week old Maltese puppy. and read the tear stain articles... I have been washing his little face with a cotton ball, and I swear his face seems to be getting more stained! He has a vet appointment later this week...so I am hoping to find out if he even needs something with an antibiotic in it. Does anyone here use Visine?

[I Found Nemo]

Hi,
No vet is going to give a 12 week puppy an antibiotic .
You can use fresh eyes, it's safe and it helps keep their eyes clean. I use it for Nemo. When your puppy is done teething (Cause teething causes staining) then you can use a product for the staining. Usually when the teething stops so does the staining..
Here is the link to Fresh Eyes..
Good Luck,
ANDREA~
http://www.bausch.com/en_US/consumer/visioncare/product/drops/collyrium.aspx

[Morkie4]

Please realize that I am quite new to this...I have a 12 week old Maltese puppy. and read the tear stain articles... I have been washing his little face with a cotton ball, and I swear his face seems to be getting more stained! He has a vet appointment later this week...so I am hoping to find out if he even needs something with an antibiotic in it. Does anyone here use Visine?
Even if the vet is willing to give you the antibiotic (hopefully he wouldn't), your little one should not be on it at this early age. Maybe for medical reasons but certainly not a steady dose which is needed to clear up staining. So wait until he has his permanent teeth before giving any consideration to antibiotics for tear staining!

[Kanga]

It is a good idea to consult your vet about the staining though. Just in case there is an underlying problem besides teething. Such as ear mites or blocked tear ducts.

If the ducts are blocked, they can fix this at the same time as his desexing.

[Morkie4]

It is a good idea to consult your vet about the staining though. Just in case there is an underlying problem besides teething. Such as ear mites or blocked tear ducts.

If the ducts are blocked, they can fix this at the same time as his desexing.
Yes, I forgot about those things that can cause staining as well! Thanks Bren, for adding that!:)

[jazzysmom]

I give Macy & Jazzy Angels Eyes and it works great however, I would not give it to a 12 week old puppy.

[Jadey]

i tried angel eyes i dont like it dont ask me, tylan didnt do nothing to donbis eyes i have given up :)
i think she is okay as long as i wash it everyday!

[dashmaltimom]

Thank you... Maybe I came across wrong in my email. I am not at all hoping for an antibiotic..and am glad it should not be an issue, but it seems like several are using products with antibiotics in them.
I'm hoping to find out something along the lines of the "teething" reply and that I just need to keep him clean.. To me, the staining is not such a big deal as long as he is not sick or needing surgery. He is such a sweetie! This dog has the PERFECT temperament! I'm amazed at how much he loves people and my other pets.
Brenda

[omega]

Ok, all you pros... what would you suggest from get go for a puppy for this "situation?" A special food, spring water, etc....????

Thanks!

[tchkapa]

My groomer also gave me a recommendation of cutting out any food and treats that have red food coloring in them, she said that should help as well. We are still using up the last of her food and treats w/ red dye so don't know if it is working yet.

[Morkie4]

Ok, all you pros... what would you suggest from get go for a puppy for this "situation?" A special food, spring water, etc....????

Thanks!

I would say until they get their permanent teeth, forget antibiotics. But in the meantime, distilled water w/ filtered apple cider to change the ph level of the eye tears and no red dye in treats or food. No tomato pumace or cranberry ingredients. Some maltese are not bothered by either, but my Kallie is sensitive to those ingredients and her face has cleared up considerably with a combination of the above things. Once they have lost their puppy teeth, an antibiotic, Tylan can be given to clear up future staining.

[omega]

I would say until they get their permanent teeth, forget antibiotics. But in the meantime, distilled water w/ filtered apple cider to change the ph level of the eye tears and no red dye in treats or food. No tomato pumace or cranberry ingredients. Some maltese are not bothered by either, but my Kallie is sensitive to those ingredients and her face has cleared up considerably with a combination of the above things. Once they have lost their puppy teeth, an antibiotic, Tylan can be given to clear up future staining.

What food do you feed?

[Morkie4]

What food do you feed?

Natural Balance Duck and Potato!!!! Also throw in some human food liked cooked chicken or salmon, veggies, apples, etc.

[I Found Nemo]

With a puppy you can't do much until it's done with the teething.I still believe it all comes down to genetics. Of course I don't know who Nemos parents are , but he has never stained.The only time he has stained is when I gave him food with Beet Pulp in it, as soon as I stopped his stains went away!
I now feed natural Balance also, it's great and Nemo is doing well on it..
Andrea:D

[omega]

Hi,
No vet is going to give a 12 week puppy an antibiotic .
You can use fresh eyes, it's safe and it helps keep their eyes clean. I use it for Nemo. When your puppy is done teething (Cause teething causes staining) then you can use a product for the staining. Usually when the teething stops so does the staining..
Here is the link to Fresh Eyes..
Good Luck,
ANDREA~
http://www.bausch.com/en_US/consumer/visioncare/product/drops/collyrium.aspx

Did you buy it off this site? Did you actually put it in their eyes or just wash their face with it?

[I Found Nemo]

Did you buy it off this site? Did you actually put it in their eyes or just wash their face with it?

Yes you can buy it anywhere like CVS or Walegreens, wherever. It's safe ..
You use it as you would on yourself, just a drop or two in each eye, it keeps the eyes clean and free of the icky stuff...
Andrea:D

[Lola's Mom]

I am not an actual hands on mom yet. My baby Lola will be coming home end of July. However, I've been doing alot of research on Maltese's, particularly on this topic. I read that the ff helps in reducing tear staining.

1, use distilled water and drink from a water bottle as opposed bowl
2, Stainless steel feeding bowls
3, Avoid foods with coloring
4, wash face regularly

I hope this helps, probably too simplistic:)

[Morkie4]

I am not an actual hands on mom yet. My baby Lola will be coming home end of July. However, I've been doing alot of research on Maltese's, particularly on this topic. I read that the ff helps in reducing tear staining.

1, use distilled water and drink from a water bottle as opposed bowl
2, Stainless steel feeding bowls
3, Avoid foods with coloring
4, wash face regularly

I hope this helps, probably too simplistic:)

Nope, all good suggestions!!!:D

[Dixie's Mama]

When does teething usually stop? Dixie is 7 months and she is still stained? Where do you guys get the food you are recommending?? How old b/f you can "try" Tylan?

[mia's mom]

When does teething usually stop? Dixie is 7 months and she is still stained? Where do you guys get the food you are recommending?? How old b/f you can "try" Tylan?


Petco has Natural Balance. Mia & Cody are still teething but both her & Cody have gotten alot better with the Angel Eyes and home cooking. I gave them 1/4 tsp. 1x a day for 2 weeks and Mia's are almost non-exsist and Cody's are much better. I would wait for the full strength Tylan until they finish teething...it all depends on the dog as to when they are finish teething.

[jdy]

I posted this on another forum but i also wanted to share with you guys that i am happy~!!~


today donbi had like 5 shots (including benadryl)
anyways my vet knows how i am particular about my babies.
and im always asking her questions like tearstains etc.

well donbi has a lot of moisture inbetween her eyes and i for one know the moisture is making her yeast buildup and tearstainning like crazy!

well finally today i told my vet, the angel eyes (she knows about) and tylan are not doing its job. i explain she has a littl yeast buildup in between her legs. and she is completely done teething.

so my question to her is, whats the next thing to do.

she gave me pyoben gel (its like lotion) it dries up the moisture areas.
and conofital for the yeast buildup.
so far the kids are all dry and i dont see as much tearing inbetween donbi and daerongs eyes :D

just wanted to share with you all my excitment for the day

please consult with your vets before getting the medication :D

[omega]

I would say until they get their permanent teeth, forget antibiotics. But in the meantime, distilled water w/ filtered apple cider to change the ph level of the eye tears and no red dye in treats or food. No tomato pumace or cranberry ingredients. Some maltese are not bothered by either, but my Kallie is sensitive to those ingredients and her face has cleared up considerably with a combination of the above things. Once they have lost their puppy teeth, an antibiotic, Tylan can be given to clear up future staining.


Is it apple cider or the vinegar mentioned earlier? :confused:

[Morkie4]

Is it apple cider or the vinegar mentioned earlier? :confused:

I use the unfiltered apple cider vinegar that you buy at the health food store. It costs about $5.00 for a quart but using only l tsp. of the vinegar to a quart of water.........it lasts a long time!! I drank some and it's not that bad. The kids drink it now with no problem.

[I Found Nemo]

I use the unfiltered apple cider vinegar that you buy at the health food store. It costs about $5.00 for a quart but using only l tsp. of the vinegar to a quart of water.........it lasts a long time!! I drank some and it's not that bad. The kids drink it now with no problem.

YUK:o and what does it do for them!!?:D
I think all these so called remedies are a bunch of bull crapola..sorry lol

[Morkie4]

YUK:o and what does it do for them!!?:D
I think all these so called remedies are a bunch of bull crapola..sorry lol

Well think what you want to think but it has helped Kallie and Toby a lot with googie eyes and the staining as well. IT WORKS!!!!! At least for them is has worked wonders!!!!:D :D

[I Found Nemo]

Well think what you want to think but it has helped Kallie and Toby a lot with googie eyes and the staining as well. IT WORKS!!!!! At least for them is has worked wonders!!!!:D :D

Ya think it will work for me:lol2: :lol2: :lol2:

[Morkie4]

Ya think it will work for me:lol2: :lol2: :lol2:

It will definitely help with your tear staining!!! ROFL..............:) :) :) :)

[omega]

I use the unfiltered apple cider vinegar that you buy at the health food store. It costs about $5.00 for a quart but using only l tsp. of the vinegar to a quart of water.........it lasts a long time!! I drank some and it's not that bad. The kids drink it now with no problem.

Aww, does it HAVE to be unfiltered? Why?

[Morkie4]

Aww, does it HAVE to be unfiltered? Why?

I don't that it has to be unfiltered but that was the suggestion that was given to me............I guess you could even use white vinegar as well. It just changes the PH level of their tear stains so that it does not have the red stains.

[omega]

Well think what you want to think but it has helped Kallie and Toby a lot with googie eyes and the staining as well. IT WORKS!!!!! At least for them is has worked wonders!!!!:D :D

Could you please define the word "googie?"

[Morkie4]

Could you please define the word "googie?"

It stuff in the corner of their eyes be it red googie or gray googie!!!

[jia07]

I have found the greatest solution to the tear stain problem. It is an all natural herbal powder called Purifeye. I was simply amazed at how it made those ugly tear stains disappear completely within a few weeks !!!!
I have tried all those topical products on he market and even got messy with the MOM (milk of magnesia, peroxide etc...) suggestions..... and still had no success until I found the www.PETPURITY.com website. I would suggest to all of you to give it a try - and would never suggest to give your pet an antibiotic for tear stains !!!!

[MalteseJane]

This is good to know. Right now I don't need it. Alex has almost no staining now. But I would rather try this first before using antibiotic. Too bad I did not know of this before.

[zeek's mom]

It stuff in the corner of their eyes be it red googie or gray googie!!!

Do you mean eye buggers???????????????:lol2:

[zeek's mom]

I have found the greatest solution to the tear stain problem. It is an all natural herbal powder called Purifeye. I was simply amazed at how it made those ugly tear stains disappear completely within a few weeks !!!!
I have tried all those topical products on he market and even got messy with the MOM (milk of magnesia, peroxide etc...) suggestions..... and still had no success until I found the www.PETPURITY.com website. I would suggest to all of you to give it a try - and would never suggest to give your pet an antibiotic for tear stains !!!!

If it works that good I really need to give it a try. How do you use it?

Oh by the way welcome to MT. I see this was your first post, and wanted to welcome you.

[jia07]

Thank you for welcoming me -
I have always come to this site to get info - so I figured now I have some insight to contribute back : )
Anyway, about the Purifeye stuff - I just put it on my dog's food every day. Its only a little pinch - so she doesn't even notice.

[Morkie4]

I have found the greatest solution to the tear stain problem. It is an all natural herbal powder called Purifeye. I was simply amazed at how it made those ugly tear stains disappear completely within a few weeks !!!!
I have tried all those topical products on he market and even got messy with the MOM (milk of magnesia, peroxide etc...) suggestions..... and still had no success until I found the www.PETPURITY.com website. I would suggest to all of you to give it a try - and would never suggest to give your pet an antibiotic for tear stains !!!!

Thanks for your input...........I'd much rather go with natural products. I'll certainly look into it for future problems.

[Beck]

I heard and read somewhere that destilled water helps with the tear staining.

Does anyone know about this? Do you bathe their faces in it or do they drink it??:confused: hee hee

[MaxJack'sMom]

I heard and read somewhere that destilled water helps with the tear staining.

Does anyone know about this? Do you bathe their faces in it or do they drink it??:confused: hee hee

We have given Jack distilled water since we got him. It does seem to help.

[I Found Nemo]

I heard and read somewhere that destilled water helps with the tear staining.

Does anyone know about this? Do you bathe their faces in it or do they drink it??:confused: hee hee

:lol2: :lol2: They drink it, you were kidding right:lol2: :lol2: :confused:

[Morkie4]

I heard and read somewhere that destilled water helps with the tear staining.

Does anyone know about this? Do you bathe their faces in it or do they drink it??:confused: hee hee

:lol2: :lol2: They drink it!!! I also add some unfiltered apple cider vinegar to the water (1 tsp to half gallon of distilled water) to adjust the ph of the tears. It takes them a little bit to get use to but then they are not bothered by the taste at all. I tasted it as well, and it isn't too bad........maybe I should drink it too. Heard vinegar was a great detox.:lol2: :lol2: :lol2:

[KMitchell]

has anyone else used the purifeye??

[tchkapa]

For Molly it seems that her severe tear stains were due to allergies. The vet mentioned that they were worse than normal, so put her on an antihistamine. That still didn't help, so they gave her a stronger antihistamine called Delta Albaplex. It has helped greatly!

[Miss Melanie]

has anyone else used the purifeye??

I would like to know this also.

enJOY!
Melanie

[jazzysmom]

has anyone else used the purifeye??

I tried purifeye and found it to work about the same as the Angel Eyes. I had ran out of AE and saw an ad about the purifeye so I thought I would try it I paid a little more for it than the AE.

I have since purchased more AE this week I was able to get it off ebay for under $20

[gypsyqueen]

:D I still feel Tylan is the best thing to use, just my opinion.
I am sure once the teething stops it will get better, if not do the Tylan..

Good Luck,
ANDREA~:D

If I yse it for only 10 days whats to keep it from coming back and is it the powder form and how much to give

[gypsyqueen]

It says its for swine is that the one hope so I ordered it

[simbacity]

yes! I use Purifeye. I used to use AE until I found out that it has tylosin in it - which is the same as that tylan. I am not holistic or anything - but I don not see any reason to give my dog an antibiotic for a cosmetic problem. Its not that she's sick, the stains dont bother her - so why have her on a medication?! I am very pleased with Purifeye, I feel better that I am adding vitamins into her food everyday instaed of an antibiotic!

[I Found Nemo]

If I yse it for only 10 days whats to keep it from coming back and is it the powder form and how much to give

Give A SMIDGEN , I used to give it in baby food.
Here is the website where I bought the spoons so I knew what amount was a smidgen, yes you bought the right one!
Good Luck

http://www.organize.com/smmesp.html

[I Found Nemo]

yes! I use Purifeye. I used to use AE until I found out that it has tylosin in it - which is the same as that tylan. I am not holistic or anything - but I don not see any reason to give my dog an antibiotic for a cosmetic problem. Its not that she's sick, the stains dont bother her - so why have her on a medication?! I am very pleased with Purifeye, I feel better that I am adding vitamins into her food everyday instaed of an antibiotic!

Tylan will not hurt your dog if given 10 days to 14 days, for some people nothing else works so this is their best hope. Vitamins will not make stains go away, if all else fails then I feel it's genetics and you really can't do much about that. With or without stains it doesn't change how much we love them:D Sometimes it's not cosmetic it can be allergies they could need their eyes flushed it could be something new in their environment or it can just be genetic!
ANDREA

[jazzysmom]

Give A SMIDGEN , I used to give it in baby food.
Here is the website where I bought the spoons so I knew what amount was a smidgen, yes you bought the right one!
Good Luck

http://www.organize.com/smmesp.html

I have those spoons and love them

[gypsyqueen]

just ordered these pets cost me a fortune wouldnt change a thing

[I Found Nemo]

just ordered these pets cost me a fortune wouldnt change a thing

they are great to have, cooking wise also..
Let us know how it goes with the staining:D

[omega]

has anyone else used the purifeye??

I use it. Jolie is almost 10 months old now and we've been using Purifeye for a while and I think it's helping. Her staining is minimal and would probably be gone if I would wash her face every day. :rolleyes:

[gypsyqueen]

Im finding out allergies may contribute to staining hair in eyelids and genitics.
I took Nohea to the vet yesterday we are trying benadryl for allergies and the opthimaligist today seems she may have a couple of hairs in the eyelid that may have to be removed hope this is the problem not genetic these stains drive crazy

[hungover]

hi all

at the risk of being a pedant-

tylosin/tylan based products are not actually legal anywhere in the world.

neither makers of angels eyes or glow have ever applied for marketing authorities (read: government rubber stamps)

It just happens that some governments turn a blind eye as they don't see it as a major problem. They have bigger fish to fry.

I used to use Angels eyes and was happy with it until defra banned it and angels glow in the uk.

I now use a natural product called angels delight. Instead of killing the bacteria it oxidises the iron inside the body. This means that the enzyme that is the basis of the red yeast is not created and hence no tear stains on my dog.

With regard to purifeyye I know one person that uses it and is happy with it. From what i can see both angels delight and puifeye are very similar. the angels delight has more ingredients because it was initailly developed to help with other problems such as arthritus, cateracts and slpping patellas. Not sure if it does all the other stuff as they are not a problem for me.

I do feel sorry for the australians though as none of the above, not even the natural products would be allowed through customs. I have always wondered if the restrictions are as much about protecting the economy from imports as protecting the environment

[Morkie4]

hi all

at the risk of being a pedant-

tylosin/tylan based products are not actually legal anywhere in the world.

neither makers of angels eyes or glow have ever applied for marketing authorities (read: government rubber stamps)

It just happens that some governments turn a blind eye as they don't see it as a major problem. They have bigger fish to fry.

I used to use Angels eyes and was happy with it until defra banned it and angels glow in the uk.

I now use a natural product called angels delight. Instead of killing the bacteria it oxidises the iron inside the body. This means that the enzyme that is the basis of the red yeast is not created and hence no tear stains on my dog.

With regard to purifeyye I know one person that uses it and is happy with it. From what i can see both angels delight and puifeye are very similar. the angels delight has more ingredients because it was initailly developed to help with other problems such as arthritus, cateracts and slpping patellas. Not sure if it does all the other stuff as they are not a problem for me.

I do feel sorry for the australians though as none of the above, not even the natural products would be allowed through customs. I have always wondered if the restrictions are as much about protecting the economy from imports as protecting the environment

Hi and welcome to maltese talk! I did a google for the angels delight and couldn't find anything on it. Could you post a link for MT members to see and read about it and where to purchase it??? Thanks!

[MaxJack'sMom]

hi all

at the risk of being a pedant-

tylosin/tylan based products are not actually legal anywhere in the world.

neither makers of angels eyes or glow have ever applied for marketing authorities (read: government rubber stamps)

It just happens that some governments turn a blind eye as they don't see it as a major problem. They have bigger fish to fry.

I used to use Angels eyes and was happy with it until defra banned it and angels glow in the uk.

I now use a natural product called angels delight. Instead of killing the bacteria it oxidises the iron inside the body. This means that the enzyme that is the basis of the red yeast is not created and hence no tear stains on my dog.

With regard to purifeyye I know one person that uses it and is happy with it. From what i can see both angels delight and puifeye are very similar. the angels delight has more ingredients because it was initailly developed to help with other problems such as arthritus, cateracts and slpping patellas. Not sure if it does all the other stuff as they are not a problem for me.

I do feel sorry for the australians though as none of the above, not even the natural products would be allowed through customs. I have always wondered if the restrictions are as much about protecting the economy from imports as protecting the environment

Yes, please do post a link. I would like to check it out too. Thanks.

[omega]

Here is one link:

http://www.holisticpetsupplies.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=151&products_id=570&osCsid=ee69d768ad09edd7e5a7f3df52d90669

Here's another... both are in the UK
http://bichonhotel.co.uk/shop/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=13

[MaxJack'sMom]

Here is one link:

http://www.holisticpetsupplies.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=151&products_id=570&osCsid=ee69d768ad09edd7e5a7f3df52d90669

Here's another... both are in the UK
http://bichonhotel.co.uk/shop/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=13

Thanks Teri,
Not sure how I'd go about ordering that from the UK. Need to search a little bit more and see if it's here in the US in some form.

[hungover]

tnx for the welcome

I get mine from Kim at Bichon Hotel

http://www.bichonhotel.co.uk/angels_delight

Angels delight is part of a wider range of holistic and natural products that they sell. I did speak to Kim last week when I was ordering their natural Whitening shampoo and she told me that she was talking to an American distributor. Sorry don't know their details or if it is in place yet.

You might want to try to send kim an email @bichonhotel.co.uk

Just be carefull that you do not accidentally purchase a dodgy powdered desert from the 1980's with a very similar name:awink:

regards

[Morkie4]

Here is one link:

http://www.holisticpetsupplies.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=151&products_id=570&osCsid=ee69d768ad09edd7e5a7f3df52d90669

Here's another... both are in the UK
http://bichonhotel.co.uk/shop/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=13

tnx for the welcome

I get mine from Kim at Bichon Hotel

http://www.bichonhotel.co.uk/angels_delight

Angels delight is part of a wider range of holistic and natural products that they sell. I did speak to Kim last week when I was ordering their natural Whitening shampoo and she told me that she was talking to an American distributor. Sorry don't know their details or if it is in place yet.

You might want to try to send kim an email @bichonhotel.co.uk

Just be carefull that you do not accidentally purchase a dodgy powdered desert from the 1980's with a very similar name:awink:

regards

Thank you both for the information and links!

[omega]

ok, from the BichonHotel, it would be apx.$23+ dollars for a size small and about $12.50 for shipping. I used a currency converter so I'm not sure of the exact prices.

[Morkie4]

ok, from the BichonHotel, it would be apx.$23+ dollars for a size small and about $12.50 for shipping. I used a currency converter so I'm not sure of the exact prices.

Wow that's a lot of $$$$............I don't really use the Tylan that often........maybe once a year or every six months if "needed." So I will just stick to using it but thanks for the information ............. good to know.

[hungover]

The shipping costs across the pond have always been prohibitive. Many things that I have looked at in the past have been cheaper than the shipping costs.

Here in the UK the prices for angels delight are exactly what i used to pay for angels eyes in the past. As with Angels eyes, you get to the stage where you don't have to use it every day.

Ultimately straight tylosin will always be the cheapest option, bar successful diet change.

[Morkie4]

The shipping costs across the pond have always been prohibitive. Many things that I have looked at in the past have been cheaper than the shipping costs.

Here in the UK the prices for angels delight are exactly what i used to pay for angels eyes in the past. As with Angels eyes, you get to the stage where you don't have to use it every day.

Ultimately straight tylosin will always be the cheapest option, bar successful diet change.

I agree! I have done everything that I could possible to eliminate tear stains and only on a few occasions have I had to resort back to using the tylosin but I only use a small amount (less than the recommended) for a period of 10 days. Thanks for the information.

[KALLI'S MOM]

Hi everyone I am new to the forum. I ordered Maltese Secret Stay White Tear Stain Remover from ***********.com it should come in any day. I also ordered it right before I found this site. Has anyone used that product and if so did it work? Also I try and feed my babies good food. I feed them merrick before grain. I don't want to give her Angel Eyes because of the antibiotics in it. (I know from personal experience what can happen when your body does not respond to antibiotics) so I figured if it can be bad for me it can be bad for her. I would appreciate any suggestions you guys might have.
Thanks

[KALLI'S MOM]

Hey guys,

Ok so can you guys re-post all of your tear stain remedies. As most of you probably know, Cosmo's tear stains are out of control. Hopefully they will slow down now that all of his baby teeth have been pulled but we will see. So post away everyone:)

Here is the update on the Maltese Secret Stay White Tear Stain Remover. I've used it a week and you can see that it is getting lighter but the biggest thing is you have to use it twice a day and I missed a couple of times getting home from work so late and by the time I finished my nightly love chores for all of my fur babies and my hunny. I had forgot to do their eyes. I am still foing it and I will let you know if it takes it away completely or not.

[kmj519]

I use angel eyes. I think it works great. I had a problem getting Teddy to eat it so I mix it with vaniella yogurt and he will eat it. He is about 4.5# so i give him the the dose for 5-8 pond dogs. The smaller does didnt work. He has no more stains.

[Morkie4]

I use angel eyes. I think it works great. I had a problem getting Teddy to eat it so I mix it with vaniella yogurt and he will eat it. He is about 4.5# so i give him the the dose for 5-8 pond dogs. The smaller does didnt work. He has no more stains.

Thanks for your input........glad the angel eyes did the trick!

[gypsyqueen]

I have found the greatest solution to the tear stain problem. It is an all natural herbal powder called Purifeye. I was simply amazed at how it made those ugly tear stains disappear completely within a few weeks !!!!
I have tried all those topical products on he market and even got messy with the MOM (milk of magnesia, peroxide etc...) suggestions..... and still had no success until I found the www.PETPURITY.com website. I would suggest to all of you to give it a try - and would never suggest to give your pet an antibiotic for tear stains !!!!My dogs would throw it up they could not hold it down

[jazzysmom]

just ordered these pets cost me a fortune wouldnt change a thing

me too and me neither!!!

[jazzysmom]

has anyone else used the purifeye??


I am an Angel Eyes user but, some months back I thought I would try the purifey it didn't work for us so I went back to AE I don't have to use it very often.

[gypsyqueen]

Im starting to notice results with this product next time I will order two bottles and save on shipping

[jazzysmom]

Tylan will not hurt your dog if given 10 days to 14 days, for some people nothing else works so this is their best hope. Vitamins will not make stains go away, if all else fails then I feel it's genetics and you really can't do much about that. With or without stains it doesn't change how much we love them:D Sometimes it's not cosmetic it can be allergies they could need their eyes flushed it could be something new in their environment or it can just be genetic!
ANDREA


I agree with Andrea Tylan is not an antibiotic that is used for dogs it is used for livestock and poultry I had this discussion with my vet before using AE and allergies can be the root of the problem so this may need to be addressed if AE or other treatments do not work. I would love mine even if their little faces were stained.

[mia's mom]

I recently put mine back on Angel's Glow since I couldn't find the Tylan I had bought :confused: I guess spring is in full swing here because both Mia & Cody have gotten stains in the eye area and mouth.:(

[morm-k]

Thats amazing I buy Kleen face from a company in England. Plus I give Katie Apple Cider vinegar capsules which help but you darent miss washing the tear stains one day or they are as bad as ever. I got a handy little gadget at a dog show last month - its like a small lollipop stick with white chalk type stuff on one end. You dampen it and then either with the stick itself or rub your fingers on it and then on the tear stains, it tones the hair down to a more natural colour. It lasts a few days before the tear stains take over again.

What is in eye envy?

[Alana]

When I got Vincent he had the cleanest little face. No staining. Now I am noticing while he doesn't have the typical tear staining, he has started getting large eye 'boogers' under his eyes. As soon as I notice them, out comes the wet wash cloth to clean them off. Which of course he doesn't like.
Is this typical? It happens so sudden. One day it is not there, then there it is. I am changing him over to a grain free diet which I hope will help.

[JiJi's Mom]

I usually wash her face but if I don't have time I use Diamond Eye, just dab some on a cotton ball and swipe away. Does wonders for my pup, she's 6 months so I still don't want to put her on antibiotics.

[zeek's mom]

I know this is an old post. But I have composed a page on my website directed to the causes and treatments of tear stains. Maybe it can be of help to someone in the future.:)

http://clabecmaltese.com/TearStains.html

[JiJi's Mom]

I know this is an old post. But I have composed a page on my website directed to the causes and treatments of tear stains. Maybe it can be of help to someone in the future.:)

http://clabecmaltese.com/TearStains.html

Thanks, I'm having problems now with JiJi's eye stains. Can't say there better or worse.:(

[mia's mom]

Here you can find information on tear stains that are useful to owners. Copying and pasting and claiming credit is still plagiarism.

http://www.bichonfriseusa.com/ref/tearstaintreat.htm

http://www.lowchensaustralia.com/grooming/grooming4.htm

[LuvMyMalt]

Thanks for the tips in the links - I just read them and saved them. I've used a mixture for years with cornstarch, boric acid, and Fish Mox mixed into a powder since having Persians (2 white, one got bad stains and still does), and it was formulated by a vet years ago. Many breeders use this for show Persians, and it can be used on dogs, too, if you're not against the Fish Mox - it's an antibiotic for fish.

I know a lot of you will be against this, but I thought I'd mention it. I've never had a problem with it.

Now, I've been using Angel's Eyes, but I think I'll try some of those tips in the links provided - ty again!

[JesBred]

Thanks for the tips in the links - I just read them and saved them. I've used a mixture for years with cornstarch, boric acid, and Fish Mox mixed into a powder since having Persians (2 white, one got bad stains and still does), and it was formulated by a vet years ago. Many breeders use this for show Persians, and it can be used on dogs, too, if you're not against the Fish Mox - it's an antibiotic for fish.

I know a lot of you will be against this, but I thought I'd mention it. I've never had a problem with it.

Now, I've been using Angel's Eyes, but I think I'll try some of those tips in the links provided - ty again!

Interesting!! Thanks Reenie!!

[LuvMyMalt]

Interesting!! Thanks Reenie!!

You're welcome - if anybody wants the "recipe," let me know :)

[JesBred]

You're welcome - if anybody wants the "recipe," let me know :)

Do you mind going ahead and posting it in case anyone in the future would like to try it??

[LuvMyMalt]

Do you mind going ahead and posting it in case anyone in the future would like to try it??

Sure thing:

Eye Powder for Eye Stain

2 oz. Boric Acid (from grocery store)
2 oz. Corn Starch
3 Capsules of Fish Mox (500 mg)
http://www.revivalanimal.com/store/p/5932-Fish-Mox-Forte.aspx


Mix all ingredients together well in a sealable plastic container.

Wash next to and under eyes with Spa Lavish Facial Scrub (that's what I use) or wipe area with Hydrogen Peroxide, then keep dipping your finger in the powder and applying until it makes a paste or until hair is dry.

This will help with existing tear stains and also good if your dog/cat's hair under eyes are wet, apply to keep the area dry.

I hope this helps somebody :D

[JiJi's Mom]

Thanks for the tips in the links - I just read them and saved them. I've used a mixture for years with cornstarch, boric acid, and Fish Mox mixed into a powder since having Persians (2 white, one got bad stains and still does), and it was formulated by a vet years ago. Many breeders use this for show Persians, and it can be used on dogs, too, if you're not against the Fish Mox - it's an antibiotic for fish.

I know a lot of you will be against this, but I thought I'd mention it. I've never had a problem with it.

Now, I've been using Angel's Eyes, but I think I'll try some of those tips in the links provided - ty again!

I have no idea what's Fish Mox, why would people be against it?

I wouln't mind getting the whole recipe :o

[LuvMyMalt]

I have no idea what's Fish Mox, why would people be against it?

I wouln't mind getting the whole recipe :o

Hi :) Here's the recipe - Fish Mox is a fish antibiotic:

Sure thing:

Eye Powder for Eye Stain

2 oz. Boric Acid (from grocery store)
2 oz. Corn Starch
3 Capsules of Fish Mox (500 mg)
http://www.revivalanimal.com/store/p/5932-Fish-Mox-Forte.aspx


Mix all ingredients together well in a sealable plastic container.

Wash next to and under eyes with Spa Lavish Facial Scrub (that's what I use) or wipe area with Hydrogen Peroxide, then keep dipping your finger in the powder and applying until it makes a paste or until hair is dry.

This will help with existing tear stains and also good if your dog/cat's hair under eyes are wet, apply to keep the area dry.

I hope this helps somebody :D

[BellasAZMom]

I have been using Angel Eyes on Bella for the past couple of months and she was for the most part been stain free. I have been giving it only 4 days a week now as suggested on the directions and now she is getting the streaks down each side of her face :( I was hoping to wean her off of the Angel Eyes, maybe I will try the purifeye as I don't want her on the Angel Eyes forever. Has anyone else had this problem? Thanks so much for all the advice!

[JesBred]

I have been using Angel Eyes on Bella for the past couple of months and she was for the most part been stain free. I have been giving it only 4 days a week now as suggested on the directions and now she is getting the streaks down each side of her face :( I was hoping to wean her off of the Angel Eyes, maybe I will try the purifeye as I don't want her on the Angel Eyes forever. Has anyone else had this problem? Thanks so much for all the advice!

Are you still cleaning the face?? Wiping it down everyday to get the gunk off?? Angel eyes can only be a temporary fix, as you can't keep them on it forever because it is an antibiotic. Try using a washcloth with warm water everyday to wipe her face. Alot of people use corn startch on the area too to keep it dry but I've never tired it so I can't say how well it works.

[BellasAZMom]

I do cleanse her face every night. I use the spa lavish every other night and use a warm cloth the other nights. I was trying to let the little hairs on the top of the bridge of her nose grow out and wonder if that was causing the staining so I trimmed it all yesterday :( She does have moisture there alot and between her eyes so I usually wipe around her face with a cotton ball a few times a day as well.
When I adopted her she had her nose shaved and her eyebrows cut very short and her face was white as could be. Of course I wanted to grow it out....LOL.

She is on Evo and our whole family drinks culligan spring water.

[LuvMyMalt]

I have been using Angel Eyes on Bella for the past couple of months and she was for the most part been stain free. I have been giving it only 4 days a week now as suggested on the directions and now she is getting the streaks down each side of her face :( I was hoping to wean her off of the Angel Eyes, maybe I will try the purifeye as I don't want her on the Angel Eyes forever. Has anyone else had this problem? Thanks so much for all the advice!

I had the same problem - once I stopped Angel's Eyes, the staining came back. I talked to my vet, and she didn't see a problem with using the AE. I am only giving it to her a few times a week, and just a little bit - not according the the chart on the bottle that goes by weight. She just got weighed and is 6 lbs., but I still give her about 1/4 tsp. and haven't increased it like the bottle suggests.

Good luck - and I have been growing Chloe's hair up and down by the eyes (stupid groomer cut her corners of her eyes after I had it all grown out - grrr!), so Pure Paws Gel is safe to put in the hair you want to grow up and down. You only need a small amount.

Let us know what works for you :tongue:

[BellasAZMom]

I felt so sad after cutting the hair in the corners of her eyes....instantly regretted doing it :( It had been growing for 2 months and since she never teared before I thought it may be the cause. I am sure if I would have continued to let it grow it would have gotten long enough and stopped bothering her...if it was at all. I really wish she could talk and tell me what's going on in her little fur body...LOL I did go out today and get the vinegar and corn starch to try so we will see if that works for her. I am going to call my vet and ask her what she thinks of the Angel Eyes and dosing. I was really hoping to stop using it soon.

[JiJi's Mom]

I feel your pain, I'm going through all of this with my girl. If she could talk she would tell me "leave me with my stains".

[aspen]

HI, Coco is almost 9 months old and her tear staining is really bad.
I had her on the wellness food and switched her to Van Pattens duck and potato to see if that will help with the staining. She is still teething so I am going to wait until her adult teeth come in and if she continues to stain I think I will take her to an eye doctor.
She also was scratching alot so I thought maybe it is allergies.
She is 3 1/2 lbs and is so cute but the staining is terrible and her little face smells.
When she gets spayed the vet will check to see if her tear ducts are blocked.

[Morkie4]

HI, Coco is almost 9 months old and her tear staining is really bad.
I had her on the wellness food and switched her to Van Pattens duck and potato to see if that will help with the staining. She is still teething so I am going to wait until her adult teeth come in and if she continues to stain I think I will take her to an eye doctor.
She also was scratching alot so I thought maybe it is allergies.
She is 3 1/2 lbs and is so cute but the staining is terrible and her little face smells.
When she gets spayed the vet will check to see if her tear ducts are blocked.

About all you can do right now is to keep her face clean and dry and that will help with the smell. Teething is really hard on the staining issue. Plus the pollen count is high right now and is even taking its toll on my fluffs. I can only recommend the daily washing for now and that should help. The itching may be a result of the staining remaining on her face and causing iritation.

[CinttisLuke]

I feel your pain, I'm going through all of this with my girl. If she could talk she would tell me "leave me with my stains".
What happen when you cut the corner hair of his eyes?

[JiJi's Mom]

What happen when you cut the corner hair of his eyes?

There still stained, and they won't go away. I keep cleaning and wiping her face and she's sick and tired of me going after her. I call her and she hides underneath the bed with her butt sticking out. Too funny.

I will probably keep shaving the corner of her eyes till I see white.


Chantilly Lace gave me great advise, to wipe her stains with eye soulution (what you use to clean your contacts with). And I have seen results, so hopefully I will have a white face on my baby once again.

[JBBTOPS]

Has anyone ever used a little white vinegar in their food or water. A vet told me one of his customers shows and used this for tear staining. Just curious if anyone has heard of this. Thanks

[CinttisLuke]

There still stained, and they won't go away. I keep cleaning and wiping her face and she's sick and tired of me going after her. I call her and she hides underneath the bed with her butt sticking out. Too funny.

I will probably keep shaving the corner of her eyes till I see white.


Chantilly Lace gave me great advise, to wipe her stains with eye soulution (what you use to clean your contacts with). And I have seen results, so hopefully I will have a white face on my baby once again.
She's so beauty! Do you have some more pictures of her? I haven't seen any =).

I have been shaving the corner of Lucas eyes he looks better! I got scared when I've read the post, that's why I asked you what happen when you do that =) . I will post some pictures that when I got him since today.

[JiJi's Mom]

She's so beauty! Do you have some more pictures of her? I haven't seen any =).

I have been shaving the corner of Lucas eyes he looks better! I got scared when I've read the post, that's why I asked you what happen when you do that =) . I will post some pictures that when I got him since today.

JiJi say's thank you for the compliments :D

Yeah they do look better when they have a nice clean shave but looks tacky when you let it grow. But I will let it grow out as soon as her stains go. I thought I posted pics of them in the album, maybe I didn't. I'll do it when I have time in my hands.

[JesBred]

Has anyone ever used a little white vinegar in their food or water. A vet told me one of his customers shows and used this for tear staining. Just curious if anyone has heard of this. Thanks

I've never of using white vinegar but I did use to use distilled apple cider vinegar. I stopped using it a long time ago becuase I just started washing her face everyday and that seemed to be enough. But with springtime emerging I've noticed I have to clean her face so much more often :( so we may start the ACV again and see if we can get some helpful results

Others also suggest plain yogurt daily to help (for the dog to eat not put on their face :lol2:)

[JiJi's Mom]

Others also suggest plain yogurt daily to help (for the dog to eat not put on their face :lol2:)

Lol, your too funny Jess.

[JesBred]

Lol, your too funny Jess.

:lol2::lol2: :tongue:

[ilovemysnow]

apple cider vinegar? How much do I put in their water?? I hate giving any kind of supplements or medicine to Snow (unless needed).. I am going to try the natural angels eyes product since it's all natural.. but if I can avoid it, I would.

Please let me know how much! Would really appreciate it!! :hearts6:

[angeleyes]

Has anyone else heard of using 1 part distilled to 1 part peroxide and using a Q-tip to apply to tear stains? I was told it works really well. Think I'll try it one Belle. Sammy has the dirty face going but not so much tear stains. He is teething so I know he's drooling. I have a make-up brush that I use on both to dust on some corn starch to dry faces out. It really helps.

[JesBred]

Has anyone else heard of using 1 part distilled to 1 part peroxide and using a Q-tip to apply to tear stains? I was told it works really well. Think I'll try it one Belle. Sammy has the dirty face going but not so much tear stains. He is teething so I know he's drooling. I have a make-up brush that I use on both to dust on some corn starch to dry faces out. It really helps.

I've used peroxide before and it does LIGHTEN the stains. It doesn't make them go away but it will lighten them. I don't use it everyday, or even every week. I've done it about 4 times now since last summer. Maybe every 3 months..

I wait until she is done tearing and clean her face really good with the facial scrub. When it dries I will take a q-tip with peroxide on it, seperate the stained hair from the other hair, put a piece of wax paper/tin foil under the stained piece of hair, and wipe the peroxide on the hair. Be careful about getting close to her eye or skin becuase I'm sure it would hurt or sting. I let the peroxide sit over night (it dries quick in a few minutes) and the next morning I will conditioner the area so it doesn't dry the hair out. I usually do this before a bath so I can condition it while she is getting a bath.

It's not something I would use all the time to fight tear stains. I only do it after she's had a major staining "outbreak" :tongue: She seems to go through phases where all I need to do is wash her face and then other times it seems like nothing helps and her tears are just so dark :( So when she has major staining I will wait it out then use what I described above to help lighten the staining. I wouldn't bother trying to use it while they are having major staining issues though, I think it would only dry the hair out

[Morkie4]

Has anyone else heard of using 1 part distilled to 1 part peroxide and using a Q-tip to apply to tear stains? I was told it works really well. Think I'll try it one Belle. Sammy has the dirty face going but not so much tear stains. He is teething so I know he's drooling. I have a make-up brush that I use on both to dust on some corn starch to dry faces out. It really helps.

Peroxide will help the staining (lighten it) but it will also damage the hair if used too much because it tends to dry out the hair.......and when the hair gets dried out, it tends to break off. And the corn starch is a great idea to keep the face dry. Daily washing will help also.

I do use the organic apple cider vinegar in the water but I do it not just for the tear staining but for digestive aid as well. :)

[Chantilly Lace]

Well after struggling I finally took Chantilly Lace to a specialist, a Veterinary Ophthalmologists, best money ever spent! The only thing I have to say is poor baby! I have bought every product known to man to fight the tear stain, have taken her several times to Doctor, given her antibiotics even though no infection present. Wash her face everyday and still fighting stain!
I took Chantilly Lace , she will be three in October, to Dr on April 21, 2011. They checked and flushed all her tear ducks and drainage duck in each corner of eye. Of course checked her eyes for moisture and it was 22% slightly high but like the Dr. said better than to dry! The amazing part of everything she discovered was Chantilly had several hairs growing in the upper and lover lids and a one or two in the corner, amazing! Can you imagine how much wetness you would have not to mention irritation from this along! I get one little hair in my eye and go nuts, my eyes swells shut! I felt so bad for my baby. Its not something I could see without magnification. These were plucked, Dr said never cut with a scissor, they would come back coarse! The amazing part is the eye wettness is dry for now! Wow is all I have to say!!! i will keep you posted on what happens now. I am so pleased. It is amazing when your not flighting the wetness alone. Just so you know they wrapped her up tight in a blanket while the assistant help the doctor. They did all this while she was a wake. She did not put up much of a fight! She was so good. This is something I will not be able to do myself. So I will have to take her in for routine checkups to remove hairs growing in lids. I am hoping I can get her to give me a better price for routine plucking which will have to done every 4-8 weeks, yet to be determined. I don't know if all hairs will continue to grow after plucking or not. Maybe they won't come back after a while, I can only hope. Hope this might help someone else, at lease consider taking your baby to the specialist to just make sure you have no underlying conditions.

[Zuly4034]

Well after struggling I finally took Chantilly Lace to a specialist, a Veterinary Ophthalmologists, best money ever spent! The only thing I have to say is poor baby! I have bought every product known to man to fight the tear stain, have taken her several times to Doctor, given her antibiotics even though no infection present. Wash her face everyday and still fighting stain!
I took Chantilly Lace , she will be three in October, to Dr on April 21, 2011. They checked and flushed all her tear ducks and drainage duck in each corner of eye. Of course checked her eyes for moisture and it was 22% slightly high but like the Dr. said better than to dry! The amazing part of everything she discovered was Chantilly had several hairs growing in the upper and lover lids and a one or two in the corner, amazing! Can you imagine how much wetness you would have not to mention irritation from this along! I get one little hair in my eye and go nuts, my eyes swells shut! I felt so bad for my baby. Its not something I could see without magnification. These were plucked, Dr said never cut with a scissor, they would come back coarse! The amazing part is the eye wettness is dry for now! Wow is all I have to say!!! i will keep you posted on what happens now. I am so pleased. It is amazing when your not flighting the wetness alone. Just so you know they wrapped her up tight in a blanket while the assistant help the doctor. They did all this while she was a wake. She did not put up much of a fight! She was so good. This is something I will not be able to do myself. So I will have to take her in for routine checkups to remove hairs growing in lids. I am hoping I can get her to give me a better price for routine plucking which will have to done every 4-8 weeks, yet to be determined. I don't know if all hairs will continue to grow after plucking or not. Maybe they won't come back after a while, I can only hope. Hope this might help someone else, at lease consider taking your baby to the specialist to just make sure you have no underlying conditions.

I sure it will. I am so glad Chantilly got that fix and hope she gets her beautiful face, white soon. You should post pics from before and after.

Get well Chantilly.:hearter:

[Chantilly Lace]

Chantilly Lace's face was not so stained or I would have done just that. The reason is I washed her face at least once a day and give her Tylan Powder off and on. Her face would stay wet and of course that makes the face look dark and unattractive. I do like digital photography and taking pictures of her made me even more aware of the problem. I know she had to be miserable as well! Her face is dry now and all I have to say is OMG! I think my work will be cut in half. I had just done a treatment of MOM before I took her to the doctor and do that when needed especially for photo day. It didn't get rid of all stain but I think now that this problem has been solved the shampoo will take care of the rest of it. I will tell you I have been using Spa Lavish for one year and decided to buy Blueberry Bark and in my opinion there is no comparison! The Blueberry Bark is so much better.

[Zuly4034]

Chantilly Lace's face was not so stained or I would have done just that. The reason is I washed her face at least once a day and give her Tylan Powder off and on. Her face would stay wet and of course that makes the face look dark and unattractive. I do like digital photography and taking pictures of her made me even more aware of the problem. I know she had to be miserable as well! Her face is dry now and all I have to say is OMG! I think my work will be cut in half. I had just done a treatment of MOM before I took her to the doctor and do that when needed especially for photo day. It didn't get rid of all stain but I think now that this problem has been solved the shampoo will take care of the rest of it. I will tell you I have been using Spa Lavish for one year and decided to buy Blueberry Bark and in my opinion there is no comparison! The Blueberry Bark is so much better.

Ok Sofia face get stain, but that is because her lazy mother doesn't wash it. As for the wet face, I know she got that fix, but if you see her face a little bit wet, I recommend buying Kleenex tissue. They adsorb sooo much water on Sofia's face. Sofia usually gets it when playing with other dogs.:confused:

http://www.shopsouthbark.com/

Is it this brand.

[JesBred]

The amazing part of everything she discovered was Chantilly had several hairs growing in the upper and lover lids and a one or two in the corner, amazing! Can you imagine how much wetness you would have not to mention irritation from this along! I get one little hair in my eye and go nuts, my eyes swells shut! I felt so bad for my baby. Its not something I could see without magnification. These were plucked, Dr said never cut with a scissor, they would come back coarse! The amazing part is the eye wettness is dry for now! Wow is all I have to say!!!

I've heard of this happening before!! That is so amazing!! I wonder if its a common thing to happen to the breed :confused:

Now I really want to get Mitzy checked :eek: The "staining" for me is fairly easy to control with washing the face but the "wetness" is what gets me!! The corners of her eyes get so much moisture. Thanks for the heads up and I'm so glad you figured this out for Chantilly!! I bet she is much more comfortable now :) I can't imagine having hairs grow in my eyes :(

[Chantilly Lace]

I've heard of this happening before!! That is so amazing!! I wonder if its a common thing to happen to the breed :confused:

Now I really want to get Mitzy checked :eek: The "staining" for me is fairly easy to control with washing the face but the "wetness" is what gets me!! The corners of her eyes get so much moisture. Thanks for the heads up and I'm so glad you figured this out for Chantilly!! I bet she is much more comfortable now :) I can't imagine having hairs grow in my eyes :(
It has changed our lives! Haven't washed her face since going to the specialist last Thursday. Just taking a break and her face hasn't needed it. Wow! Well I guess there is something to be said about a specialist! My regular doctor who is great, specializing in small and exotics but yet even though she had seen him many times about the wet and stained face, even given her treatments didn't catch this! I actually call the doctor to recommend a Veterinarian Ophthalmologist and of course I had to explain I was going crazy with the wet nasty looking face everyday for almost 2 years! For crying out loud, and poor Chantilly what she must have gone threw! I do feel terrible about not doing this sooner! I spent so much money trying to do away with the stain buying every product known to man, pretty stupid on my part! I have never owned a Maltese before and I guess reading so much about it being hereditary! Well I have learned something from this experience and that's why I will spread this as far as I can. Who knows this could be something that might help another parent make the division to at least go to a specialist before you give in to just fighting the stain. I guess the question in my case is keeping up with the maintenance of plucking the hair from the lids as needed, this has to be done by the Ophthalmologist! Very delicate procedure, I can't do it for sure. Let me know what happens with your babies.