angel glow and angel eyes

[gypsyqueen]

I have used both on my sisters maltese and my sons maltipoo it worked great however my 10 month old nothing works I also feed natures recipe any body have any ideas I hate these stains its even on her feet

[I Found Nemo]

You can try Tylan that has helped people, you put a dash (Small amount )on their food once a day for 10 days. http://www.qcsupply.com/Products/2817.aspx
Good Luck,
ANDREA

[bellaratamalt]

I have used both on my sisters maltese and my sons maltipoo it worked great however my 10 month old nothing works I also feed natures recipe any body have any ideas I hate these stains its even on her feet

Have you had your vet check her out to make sure there isn't a medical reason for the staining? I'm not familiar with staining of the feet but i don't think it's typical to have that happen. I know mine don't have that problem with the tear staining they have.

Tylan is the main active ingredient in Angel Eyes and Angel Glow, so you've already tried that, right? I know it's frustrating to have the tear staining! How long have you had your little girL?

[I Found Nemo]

Tylan is the main ingredient but this way it is given directly! When Nemo was younger 10 months he did stain I didn't realize it was from the Nutro so I bought the Tylan and it worked after 10 days, Nemo doesn't stain at all now.
I know alot of people who after everything else have had success with the Tylan, it's really up to you I was just saying what worked for me:D
You should though take your baby to the vet and make sure there isn't a medical reason.
ANDREA

[Morkie4]

If you have tried the angel eyes and angel glow and neither work, I would try the vet to make sure no medical issues such as blocked tear ducts is the issue. Tylan worked for the staining problem on my kids and is cheaper but mine were also all over 2 years old. And it is not something that you can give continually as was stated because it is an antibiotic. I tried to put it into their food and they would not touch it so I had to conceal it in some NB beef rolls food or in cheese.

There are also other means to help with staining of the eyes and feet that is chemcially based with hair peroxide...........you can do a search and I am sure you will come up with those remedies. But even with the use of those, it is something that you want to take your time with and not use too often as it will damage the hair if you do!! And great caution as it could damage the skin if used too often and too much on the area or it gets into the eyes. It's a more drastic way to fix the staining problem...........but vet first for a medical check. JMO

[mia's mom]

I would try changing her food that food isn't really the greatest. She might have a food allergy if it is showing up on her feet.

[gypsyqueen]

I was using natural choice then changed to natures recipe I will ask vet before changing food and adding tylan Im at my witts end with stains shes a beautiful girl exept the stains

[Morkie4]

I was using natural choice then changed to natures recipe I will ask vet before changing food and adding tylan Im at my witts end with stains shes a beautiful girl exept the stains

Look for a dog food that does not have red dyes, cranberry, red beet pulp, etc.................those things could lead to red staining. I also added some white vinegar to their water, it is suppose to change the ph level of the tearing. It has helped tremendously with the combination of the two and the initial use of the Tylan.

[gypsyqueen]

will they drink the water Im going to the vet now to see what else I can do and try another food check in later

[Morkie4]

will they drink the water Im going to the vet now to see what else I can do and try another food check in later

At first they sort of had a strange look on their face but it only took a couple of hours and they were drinking it like it was just plain old water. I also use distilled water for them. Between the three of them they drink a little over 32 ounces a day with the vinegar in it.

[I Found Nemo]

I dont know if your giving Nutro? That is what made nemo stain, as soon as I took him off it stopped.

[gypsyqueen]

Any suggestions on a good quality food that is easy to get too with no colors in it Im also ordering tylan see if it makes a diff. the vet says its from the hair around her eyes cauese her to tear tried telling him angel eyes is suppossed to stop it from staining he just did not get it told me to see an opthamaligist to burn the hair around the eyes to get rid of hair gotta think about that

[I Found Nemo]

Any suggestions on a good quality food that is easy to get too with no colors in it Im also ordering tylan see if it makes a diff. the vet says its from the hair around her eyes cauese her to tear tried telling him angel eyes is suppossed to stop it from staining he just did not get it told me to see an opthamaligist to burn the hair around the eyes to get rid of hair gotta think about that

Natural Balance is a great food, there are alot but I use NB and have never had any problems ..
ANDREA http://www.naturalbalanceinc.com/

[mia's mom]

Alot of vets just look at you strange when you mention the Tylan. Mine even pulled out her Vet book! You can try NV it's a great food.
http://naturesvariety.com/content.lasso?page=1465&-session=naturesvariety:4C121A8A1b7df22746WSJ3DD413 8

[Morkie4]

Any suggestions on a good quality food that is easy to get too with no colors in it Im also ordering tylan see if it makes a diff. the vet says its from the hair around her eyes cauese her to tear tried telling him angel eyes is suppossed to stop it from staining he just did not get it told me to see an opthamaligist to burn the hair around the eyes to get rid of hair gotta think about that

Well, I think what he was saying is that the hair around the eye is short and is getting into her eyes and causing tearing and with the food issue, perhaps that is why she is staining. You either have to keep the hair cut very short around the eyes, or else let it grow out so that you can put it into a topknot and the rest on the muzzle into a beard/moustache. It's a hard call but you have to do one or the other.

I am using the Natural Balance Duck and Potato at the moment and it is doing really well. But I am also trying the Natures Variety chicken and also their venison. I've heard great things regarding them as well.

[I Found Nemo]

I think after changing foods and the seeing the vet if the problem continues I would try the Tylan
Good luck

[zeek's mom]

I just got my order of Angel Eyes in today. Skye and Maggie's eyes are terrible, but they were teething. They now have the adult teeth in so I think it is time to give it a try.


I will say this. I know for a fact that it can come from genetics. Maggie and Skye's uncle is bad about staining. We are always trying something with him. I sure hope the Angel Eyes works for all of them. I had tried the Tylan on Darlii with not much sucess. But it was not the tylan 40.


I hope that your issue is resolved soon. I know how it feels to battle the staining. I will not post pics of the twins because of it.

[Love my Leo]

Leo had some pretty bad tear stains as a puppy which I don't think anything helps during the teething stages (IMHO). I switched his food from science diet to nature's variety and also used Angel Eye's for about a month which did wonders. I use "Fresh Eyes" for humans to clean eye area most every day which contains boric acid and won't hurt him if it gets in his eyes and has really whitened any minor stains.

Cathy:D

[Morkie4]

I just got my order of Angel Eyes in today. Skye and Maggie's eyes are terrible, but they were teething. They now have the adult teeth in so I think it is time to give it a try.


I will say this. I know for a fact that it can come from genetics. Maggie and Skye's uncle is bad about staining. We are always trying something with him. I sure hope the Angel Eyes works for all of them. I had tried the Tylan on Darlii with not much sucess. But it was not the tylan 40.


I hope that your issue is resolved soon. I know how it feels to battle the staining. I will not post pics of the twins because of it.

Oh but do take pictures so that we can see the difference that the angel eyes can make for staining!!!! I am sure other members would find it helpful!! Nothing better than proof positive on a product thant to see the results.

[Morkie4]

Leo had some pretty bad tear stains as a puppy which I don't think anything helps during the teething stages (IMHO). I switched his food from science diet to nature's variety and also used Angel Eye's for about a month which did wonders. I use "Fresh Eyes" for humans to clean eye area most every day which contains boric acid and won't hurt him if it gets in his eyes and has really whitened any minor stains.

Cathy:D

I have some of that too............have been using it as well. It keeps their eyes nice and clear and clean!:)

[zeek's mom]

Oh but do take pictures so that we can see the difference that the angel eyes can make for staining!!!! I am sure other members would find it helpful!! Nothing better than proof positive on a product thant to see the results.

You know Carol, I must think the world of you to even consider it. But you have made me think about it. I need to try and get some pictures taken this week so I will try just for you. hehehehehe They dont call you the boss lady for no reason do they? :wink5: :wink5:

[Morkie4]

You know Carol, I must think the world of you to even consider it. But you have made me think about it. I need to try and get some pictures taken this week so I will try just for you. hehehehehe They dont call you the boss lady for no reason do they? :wink5: :wink5:

I just know from my own experience that it really showed a difference in Kallie. You don't have to post the pics unless you really see a difference...............Just take the pictures in case the stuff works for you. I used the Tylan40 and have proof that it worked with Kallie. I am using it on Brandy now and I see a difference already but her staining was not nearly as bad as Kallie's.:) :) But again, I attribute her nice white face to more than just Tylan (food, vinegar, cleaning the face daily, etc.).

[gypsyqueen]

where do you get the dog food I did not see either brand all the rest had carrots, beets, tomato or pomigrant so I made my own chix breast ,brown rice missing link and flax seed

[I Found Nemo]

where do you get the dog food I did not see either brand all the rest had carrots, beets, tomato or pomigrant so I made my own chix breast ,brown rice missing link and flax seed

I gave you the link for Natural balance above in my previous post, it's available at Petco.

[Morkie4]

where do you get the dog food I did not see either brand all the rest had carrots, beets, tomato or pomigrant so I made my own chix breast ,brown rice missing link and flax seed

That sounds like a nice combination: Protein, carbs and omegas......nothing wrong with that. I actually get my Natural Balance from a local store called Petco and I had to special order the Nature's Variety from a health food store. It really is hard to find the "perfect" dog food. I always come back to the Natural Balance Duck and Potato.:D :D

[gypsyqueen]

went to petco in lv they did not have it so at least I know whats in there dog food now I also ordered tylan Its nice to have someplace to ask questions and get answers from people who has been through it.

[I Found Nemo]

went to petco in lv they did not have it so at least I know whats in there dog food now I also ordered tylan Its nice to have someplace to ask questions and get answers from people who has been through it.

I hope it all works for you, tylan worked for alot of people and with the change of food it should get better.
Good Luck:D

[Miss Melanie]

Both our Bella Mia and Sir Micro had a wonderful result from Angel Eyes. Bella's staining cleared up in less then a month and Sir Micro, who was much worse, cleared up in about 6 weeks.

Bella's staining has never returned. Sir Micro's has. I got a bottle of Tylan to try Micro on and my DARLING husband put it somewhere and can't find it now. Am I happy about this? NO!

Good luck with the staining, it's such a shame our babies suffer from this issue.

Melanie

[gypsyqueen]

You can try Tylan that has helped people, you put a dash (Small amount )on their food once a day for 10 days. http://www.qcsupply.com/Products/2817.aspx
Good Luck,

ANDREA

So you can only use tylan for ten days

[GrannyKnot]

Try Vitamin C or better still Ester-C. This may sound a bit old-fashioned but please indulge me.:o

My friend has an elderly Bichon with some joint problems - she also had horrendous tear-staining. Her vet suggested Vitamin C to help with the joint problems - it did and also cleared up her tear-staining. :confused: I tried it on my Westie who had a permanently dirty beard. The "after" pic is after a month of a tiny pinch of Vit C powder in her food once every two days. My Malt's tear and beard staining are kept within reasonable bounds with a pinch in his food when necessary. Apparently it also changes the acidity of the tears and saliva like Tylan and the derivatives. A plus point for bitch owners is less brown/burn rings in the grass. :D

The local vets refuse to prescribe or even discuss Tylan which *they* say is not tested on nor intended for dogs. I am very leary of self-administering antibiotics, so Vit C is a reasonable alternative for me. :)

[I Found Nemo]

So you can only use tylan for ten days

Yes for 10 days and only a pinch a day. I put it in baby food (Banana)
I know you are getting different opinions, so just do what is best for you, Tylan can't and wont harm your baby. Like I said it's up to you to go with what you feel comfortable with:)

[Morkie4]

I use the Tylan40............Ingredient is Tylosin. For those of you that have the angel eyes or angel glow......what is the main ingredient on the bottle???? Just curious.:confused: :confused:

[GrannyKnot]

... angel eyes or angel glow......what is the main ingredient on the bottle???? Just curious.:confused: :confused:
Third answer on each:
Angels' Eyes (http://www.angelseyesonline.com/faq.htm)
Angels' Glow (http://www.angelsglow.com/FAQ.html)
:wink5:

[I Found Nemo]

Third answer on each:
Angels' Eyes (http://www.angelseyesonline.com/faq.htm)
Angels' Glow (http://www.angelsglow.com/FAQ.html)
:wink5:

Ah ha, so the main ingredient isn't Tylan :confused: right!
Thats why when using Tylan alone it works..
Thanks

[I Found Nemo]

I also have to say that sometimes these stains I feel are genetic, thats why sometimes all these products don't work for some people, I really feel genetics play a huge role..JMO:D

[plumie]

Pani staining isnt that bad yet. (knock on wood)
But I ask her breeder and she mentioned using Keflex, I guess that some kind of antibiotic. Anyone hear of that?

[Morkie4]

Very interesting.

So both the ingredients in Angels' Eyes and Angel Glow is the tylosin as tartrate!

Keflex is an antibiotic. There are several types the vet may suggest. I had Kallie on Tetracycline for the staining for a short period of time; again another antibiotic.

[Morkie4]

Third answer on each:
Angels' Eyes (http://www.angelseyesonline.com/faq.htm)
Angels' Glow (http://www.angelsglow.com/FAQ.html)
:wink5:

Thank you for the links!!!!:)

[I Found Nemo]

Pani staining isnt that bad yet. (knock on wood)
But I ask her breeder and she mentioned using Keflex, I guess that some kind of antibiotic. Anyone hear of that?

:confused: wow, my oldest son is on that right now for his sore throat, it is an antibiotic..I think you need a prescription for that, you can't just go and buy it...
ANDREA:D

[gypsyqueen]

Try Vitamin C or better still Ester-C. This may sound a bit old-fashioned but please indulge me.:o

My friend has an elderly Bichon with some joint problems - she also had horrendous tear-staining. Her vet suggested Vitamin C to help with the joint problems - it did and also cleared up her tear-staining. :confused: I tried it on my Westie who had a permanently dirty beard. The "after" pic is after a month of a tiny pinch of Vit C powder in her food once every two days. My Malt's tear and beard staining are kept within reasonable bounds with a pinch in his food when necessary. Apparently it also changes the acidity of the tears and saliva like Tylan and the derivatives. A plus point for bitch owners is less brown/burn rings in the grass. :D

The local vets refuse to prescribe or even discuss Tylan which *they* say is not tested on nor intended for dogs. I am very leary of self-administering antibiotics, so Vit C is a reasonable alternative for me. :)

Honey Im not just going to indulge you Im going to the store do I crush it or does it come in powder a pinch meaning like a pinch of salt

[GrannyKnot]

You should be able to get it in powder form from a pharmacy or even the pharmacy section of your local grocery store - that's where I used to get mine.

A pinch = a tad, a morsel, a smidgeon ;) = no more than would fit on the nail bed of your little finger. It works on new hair as it grows, so for a Malt with longer hair than my Westie, it would also be a good idea to wash and thoroughly dry the face at least daily to start to clear up the existing stains.

Got another "herbal" for that if you're interested ;) 1/2 baking soda (bicarbonate of soda) and 1/2 lemon juice. Make a paste, paint it on the stains, leave for about 30 minutes, shampoo, rinse and condition thoroughy - can dry the hair, repeat a few times until hair has lightened enough. Be v. careful not to get in eyes - doh! talk about stating the obvious :blush:

[zeek's mom]

Honey Im not just going to indulge you Im going to the store do I crush it or does it come in powder a pinch meaning like a pinch of salt

You should be able to get it in powder form from a pharmacy or even the pharmacy section of your local grocery store - that's where I used to get mine.

A pinch = a tad, a morsel, a smidgeon ;) = no more than would fit on the nail bed of your little finger. It works on new hair as it grows, so for a Malt with longer hair than my Westie, it would also be a good idea to wash and thoroughly dry the face at least daily to start to clear up the existing stains.

Got another "herbal" for that if you're interested ;) 1/2 baking soda (bicarbonate of soda) and 1/2 lemon juice. Make a paste, paint it on the stains, leave for about 30 minutes, shampoo, rinse and condition thoroughy - can dry the hair, repeat a few times until hair has lightened enough. Be v. careful not to get in eyes - doh! talk about stating the obvious :blush:

She is not the only one that is going to indulge you Lorraine. I got my angel eyes yesterday and split it with my mom. I brought mine home in a zip lock bag and placed it on my desk. Well my Jap. Chin really thought it was something big and good, because she jumped up on the desk and got it and when I got up this morning it was allllllll over my sofa. Along with some puke where she made herself sick. I took her to the vet and they said she will be OK but still now I no longer have any Angel Eyes. I guess being that it had her name in it she thought she was suppose to eat it. LOLOLOL

[GrannyKnot]

I looked after a Japanese Chin for about 2 months while her Mum was in hospital. I used to call her boing-boing - she could jump so high, straight up from a sit, it was amazing. Glad your little one will have no lasting ill effects :flowersm:

[zeek's mom]

I looked after a Japanese Chin for about 2 months while her Mum was in hospital. I used to call her boing-boing - she could jump so high, straight up from a sit, it was amazing. Glad your little one will have no lasting ill effects :flowersm:

Thank You. She is a bit spoiled and has been known to get up on the counter and stole some chicken fingers while I was next door. But I never imagined that she would think this stuff was such a big surprise or I would have never left it on my desk. They said she will be fine, being that she through up so much. And she is being her normal self now. I knew when I named her Angel that she was a devil in disguise. :D :D

[gypsyqueen]

She is not the only one that is going to indulge you Lorraine. I got my angel eyes yesterday and split it with my mom. I brought mine home in a zip lock bag and placed it on my desk. Well my Jap. Chin really thought it was something big and good, because she jumped up on the desk and got it and when I got up this morning it was allllllll over my sofa. Along with some puke where she made herself sick. I took her to the vet and they said she will be OK but still now I no longer have any Angel Eyes. I guess being that it had her name in it she thought she was suppose to eat it. LOLOLOL
Got me laughing thanks Iwill try lemon and baking soda on bath day thank you

[jazzysmom]

Natural Balance is a great food, there are alot but I use NB and have never had any problems ..
ANDREA http://www.naturalbalanceinc.com/

I feed Natural Balance also and we are very happy with it. Angel Eyes worked great for us also.

[hungover]

Ah ha, so the main ingredient isn't Tylan :confused: right!
Thats why when using Tylan alone it works..
Thanks


Hi ya

Tylan is the brand name fo the product invented by Elanco in the late 50's to fight respiratory problems in poutlry. Tylosin is the generic name for tylan. The tartrate term is just a reference to the form that it takes.

So the active ingredient in both angels glow and angels eyes is tylan by any other name. The other ingredients are there to bulk it out and hide the bitter taste of the tylosin/tylan.

Whilst i have had great success with a natural product called Angels Delight, of all the antibiotic options the tylan/tylosin based ones are probably less harmful than others such as tetracycline. Tylosin is narrow spectrum and only kills a small group of bacteria whereas tetracycline is wide spectrum. Both classes will have an impact on the bacteria and flora in the gut (which is why tylosin was used as a growth promoter in livestock until outlawed in Europe)- yogurt will help to reintroduce some of the good bacteria.

All of the above will work but only if you use the correct amount and the correct dosage. I have friends that have purchased angels eyes (before moving on to Angels Delight) in the past and complained that it wasn't working- turns out they were skimping on the dose- if you are gonna spend money on a treatment and not give the correct amount then you really are wasting your money.

[MaxJack'sMom]

I agree with you. I had great success with using Angel Eyes and I did follow the directions to the letter. I had a special calendar that I marked the days and doses on so I knew when to start the extra level of either adding or subtracting days and doses. Like you said, why buy the product and then not follow through.....I used it from Dec - May to get the tear stains under control.

[gypsyqueen]

I had Noheas eyes done but Im not doing Louies it changes there look Im trying angels delight with louie and secret I think it looks better but the shipping foe angels delight is outragous 29..00

[julietimothy]

Has anyone tried I-stain you can see it at www.jefferspet.com Does it work?

[maltchimom]

I am ordering Angel Eyes next week. I hope it works. Chipper has had tear stains since he was a puppy.

[hungover]

Has anyone tried I-stain you can see it at www.jefferspet.com Does it work?

Had never heard of it before.

Ingredients

Maltodextrin, DL Methionine, Grape Fruit Seed Extract, Pancreatin 6x, Acidophilus

I have no idea how it works though... Ingredients look safe- grape fruit seed is reputed to help with yeast infections.

Does anyone else? - from what I can see the ingredients are great for dogs with problems keeping weight on.

[julietimothy]

I ordered it and going to try. It looks like it come be safer than useing Meds. every day. I will let every one know how it works.

Julie :p

[Morkie4]

I ordered it and going to try. It looks like it come be safer than useing Meds. every day. I will let every one know how it works.

Julie :p

Oh good, I always like it when someone uses a product and then comes back and lets us know how it works!!!! Hope it does the trick for your fluffs eye stains!

[maltchimom]

I have used angel eyes for a couple of weeks with Chipper and I can see improvement.