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MaxJack'sMom
01-20-2007, 01:51 PM
:confused: Does anyone remember what thread had the picture of the black maltese puppy? I can't afford another dog but I was just curious if anyone has heard back from that breeder.

Morkie4
01-20-2007, 02:17 PM
:confused: Does anyone remember what thread had the picture of the black maltese puppy? I can't afford another dog but I was just curious if anyone has heard back from that breeder.
Oh, I remember the thread very well.........but it got erased by the crash! So there is no way to figure out much about the breeder unless someone remembers her registered name........and I don't have a clue!:D

MaxJack'sMom
01-20-2007, 02:29 PM
I would love to have gotten a picture of that baby. As much as I love the white maltie, that black one would be adorable.

How come all the threads from 2005 and such weren't lost in the crash? I'm pretty new to this stuff and don't understand the terminology about crashes.

Chloeandj
01-20-2007, 02:49 PM
She posted another litter for sale as black maltese 6 months after the first litter. I asked her to post a pic of a puppy from the last litter at 6 months old and it looked like a morkie.

MaxJack'sMom
01-20-2007, 03:01 PM
She posted another litter for sale as black maltese 6 months after the first litter. I asked her to post a pic of a puppy from the last litter at 6 months old and it looked like a morkie.

Thanks!! Is this breeder to be trusted? How do you try to pass what might be a morkie off as a maltese and not think people will figure it out. The "black" color does give it away just alittle!!!
My sister did tell me that the black is a rare possibility because we do get "white" dogs because of a recessive gene. Hundreds (maybe thousands) of years ago, the first Maltese were not all white. They were bred down to the standard they are now.

If you do get a pic please post it for me. I'd just like to copy it and put it up on my wall in a frame.

sunnydog
01-20-2007, 05:33 PM
I wouldnt trust this breeder. Who ever heard of a black maltese, must have a mix in it.

:laugh: put the pic on the wall in a frame :laugh: :laugh: thats funny

Morkie4
01-20-2007, 05:50 PM
I wouldnt trust this breeder. Who ever heard of a black maltese, must have a mix in it.

:laugh: put the pic on the wall in a frame :laugh: :laugh: thats funny
YOu are absolutely right although she insisted the parents were both purebred white maltese! But we know different! Yes, it is true there were black maltese at one time but they took great efforts to rid the breed of all black and only have white.............centuries ago! Glad to see you are posting and being a full member!:D

Morkie4
01-20-2007, 05:56 PM
I would love to have gotten a picture of that baby. As much as I love the white maltie, that black one would be adorable.

How come all the threads from 2005 and such weren't lost in the crash? I'm pretty new to this stuff and don't understand the terminology about crashes.
When the crash took place, they had not backed up any new members posts or threads so only had the original information............Means like a virus got hold of the programs and erased everything but they did have some of the very first MT registered members copied to a CD...........so they used that CD to start MT up again and any members who came on and were not on the back up CD were erased as well. So they had to reregister but there was no way the threads and posts could be recovered. That help you?

Chloeandj
01-20-2007, 09:07 PM
Well, she also owned and bred black poodles. So, you know...whatever...lol

bek74
01-20-2007, 10:05 PM
I personally think the original maltese that came in different colours were stunning. Although I luv the white flowing coat, I also adore the other colours. I think it is ashame that we breed the original colours out of them.

Alot of people are against mixed breeds and only breeding to better the breed and although I do agree with that and am tatally against backyard breeding, I do feel as though we interfered with nature, I don't understand why it is that we as humans bred out the original colour variety of the Maltese.

I love the Maltese breed, I luv there human like personality, there unconditional love they have for us as there owner, there child like characteristics, the list goes on and on, but none of that relates to the colour.

That is JMO.

I Found Nemo
01-21-2007, 03:30 AM
I personally think the original maltese that came in different colours were stunning. Although I luv the white flowing coat, I also adore the other colours. I think it is ashame that we breed the original colours out of them.

Alot of people are against mixed breeds and only breeding to better the breed and although I do agree with that and am tatally against backyard breeding, I do feel as though we interfered with nature, I don't understand why it is that we as humans bred out the original colour variety of the Maltese.

I love the Maltese breed, I luv there human like personality, there unconditional love they have for us as there owner, there child like characteristics, the list goes on and on, but none of that relates to the colour.

That is JMO.
I totally agree with all that you said Bek. Sorry but I think this lady "Missed the banana boat" so to speak:D ..
ANDREA~

maltesemum
01-21-2007, 03:42 AM
I agree with Bek too & i also think the way the Maltese looks has changed somewhat too & the size also.

MaxJack'sMom
01-21-2007, 08:13 AM
I totally agree with Bek. I have this great article from a Maltese magazine and it talks about how the standards are so important and how the maltese has changed so much. I would love to have different colors. Other breeds have multiple colors that are accepted in the show ring (cocker spaniel for one).
As Chloeandj stated that the breeder also has black poodles, well, just be honest and say if they are maltipoos. Alot of the best dogs are mutts. People put mutts down but they sure are paying alot of money for a mixed breed: puggles, bojacks, labadoodle and the list goes on. My friend that lives in NY has a maltipoo that she paid $1200 for!!!!!!

sunnydog
01-21-2007, 10:29 AM
:confused: Some malts have the bit of tan on their ears and even a spot on their backs, maybe a recessive gene from way back when? I think it is cute. My Sunny has one of those spots on his back but it has faded a bit.

The standard used to be larger too? I think in Europe the standard is still larger than in North America? Maybe that is where all the health problems arise from trying to breed for a smaller dog - why do people mess with mother nature

I Found Nemo
01-21-2007, 10:31 AM
:confused: Some malts have the bit of tan on their ears and even a spot on their backs, maybe a recessive gene from way back when? I think it is cute. My Sunny has one of those spots on his back but it has faded a bit.

The standard used to be larger too? I think in Europe the standard is still larger than in North America? Maybe that is where all the health problems arise from trying to breed for a smaller dog - why do people mess with mother nature
Yes I agree it can be a gene from way back , maybe once, but not twice.
I just have a hard time believing all this, could be wrong though

ANDREA~:)

Morkie4
01-21-2007, 11:09 AM
Yes I agree it can be a gene from way back , maybe once, but not twice.
I just have a hard time believing all this, could be wrong though

ANDREA~:)
Sorry, I can't even accept that it could be a long lost gene from way back! There has not been black maltese in eons of time. Really!!! It was carefully bred out of the breed as undesirable a very long time ago. It just ain't going to happen!!! Never will I be convinced that they are purebred "black" maltese.

sunnydog
01-21-2007, 11:21 AM
Sorry, I can't even accept that it could be a long lost gene from way back! There has not been black maltese in eons of time. Really!!! It was carefully bred out of the breed as undesirable a very long time ago. It just ain't going to happen!!! Never will I be convinced that they are purebred "black" maltese.

I think I Found Nemo might be referring to the tan gene I was referring to, not the black maltese, but I could be wrong :confused: Or maybe I confused the thread :eek: by referring to the bit of tan that appears from time to time. LOL who is confused now?

I dont believe their ever was a pure black maltese

Morkie4
01-21-2007, 11:36 AM
From all the reading I have done on the maltese even in older books, it does state that there were black maltese at one time in the 18th century in England but that they worked very hard at getting the "genetic" black out of the breed. I will look through my source material and see if I can find something more specific on "black" maltese. But I am still of the opinion that it is not a possibility today to produce a purebred black maltese. It would have had to been mixed with another breed dog! jmo.....and I'm intitled to that! LOL:tongue5:

maltesemum
01-21-2007, 12:04 PM
I think I Found Nemo might be referring to the tan gene I was referring to, not the black maltese, but I could be wrong :confused: Or maybe I confused the thread :eek: by referring to the bit of tan that appears from time to time. LOL who is confused now?

I dont believe their ever was a pure black maltese


I understood what you were saying:D You thought the tan colouring was a gene from the past. Right! The tan is allowed but not desirable but i have seen the No1 maltese for 2005 & he had light tan markings.



A while ago I had a little conversation with Sharon (FoxstoneMaltese) who is a very well respected Maltese Breeder & who knows her stuff & in her opinion the "Black Maltese" is NOT possible unless mixed with another dog & then it would not be a pure bred Maltese.

bek74
01-21-2007, 01:53 PM
I totally agree, there is no possible way it could be a purebred Black Maltese. Sounds like this person is just a scammer.

I do think it is ashame though, that we can't enjoy the colours that were once in the Maltese breed. I would luv a little white Malt and a Black Malt, even a multicoloured Malt.

dogloverx4
01-21-2007, 02:14 PM
You know Princess Charlotte looks like a Maltese with colored ears , so it is easy to visualize how it once was . Charlotte actually had a solid black brother in her litter , he was GORGEOUS - I wish I had a photo of him . Sarah
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h258/dogloverx3/preciouspups155.jpg

bek74
01-21-2007, 02:22 PM
I luv Princess Charlotte's colours, I think she is stunning and yes she looks like a purebred Malt( with colour).
Wouldn't it be wonderful if all those colours were available?????????????? They would be stunning.

maltesemum
01-21-2007, 02:25 PM
There must be another breed out there similar to the malt that has colour.

Kanga
01-21-2007, 02:37 PM
Yep it is called a Shih Tzu :laugh: :laugh:

MaxJack'sMom
01-21-2007, 03:57 PM
After re-reading my last post (#13) I realized that I might have offended some with the term mutt. I don't know why I even used that word, I don't like to use it myself. I know alot of the MT members have mixed breeds and I never should have used that term. For that I am truly sorry. I also feel that I shouldn't have talked about the price someone pays for their pet. I hope everyone will accept my deepest apology.

Cheryl

I Found Nemo
01-21-2007, 04:03 PM
After re-reading my last post (#13) I realized that I might have offended some with the term mutt. I don't know why I even used that word, I don't like to use it myself. I know alot of the MT members have mixed breeds and I never should have used that term. For that I am truly sorry. I also feel that I shouldn't have talked about the price someone pays for their pet. I hope everyone will accept my deepest apology.

Cheryl
Aww Cheryl you didnt offend me at all.To be honest I didnt even know till you just told me:D We are your friends so don't worry about it!!

ANDREA~:smlove2:

dogloverx4
01-21-2007, 04:18 PM
Cheryl , I have a cross breed and I wasn't offended by the term . A cross breed in Australia only costs $200.00 to $500.00 . A mutt to me is a dog of indiscriminate breeding and unknown origin . Princess Charlotte on the other hand is a trifle perturbed to be called a mutt . Sarah

bek74
01-21-2007, 04:28 PM
After re-reading my last post (#13) I realized that I might have offended some with the term mutt. I don't know why I even used that word, I don't like to use it myself. I know alot of the MT members have mixed breeds and I never should have used that term. For that I am truly sorry. I also feel that I shouldn't have talked about the price someone pays for their pet. I hope everyone will accept my deepest apology.

Cheryl


No Cheryl no Offense taken, It is easier to say Mutt then Mixed breed, both mean the same thing.

Honestly not offended at all :smlove2:

Kanga
01-21-2007, 04:48 PM
Cheryl don't worry about it I am sure there was no offence taken.

Some people are happy to be owned by a mutt lol My sister paid way too much for her's ..........a Labradoodle and then named him "Dudley" as in a dud.

Explaination.... he wouldn't respond to any names they were trying out and she turned to her husband and said "I think we got a dud" to which Dudley whipped his head around and looked at her so Dudley was so named.

maltesemum
01-22-2007, 03:58 AM
Yep it is called a Shih Tzu :laugh: :laugh:


LOL yours maybe but not ours:D ours have a very flat face & the shih Tzu's coat is different.


no offense taken cheryl.:D

Morkie4
01-22-2007, 05:57 AM
After re-reading my last post (#13) I realized that I might have offended some with the term mutt. I don't know why I even used that word, I don't like to use it myself. I know alot of the MT members have mixed breeds and I never should have used that term. For that I am truly sorry. I also feel that I shouldn't have talked about the price someone pays for their pet. I hope everyone will accept my deepest apology.

Cheryl
I certainly wasn't offended.......... I owned a mutt........and she was the most wonderful little mutt I have ever owned and as smart as could be! She was a mix between a miniature aussie and ???? who knows, but she was the love of my life. She responded to 25 words and knew 15 tricks! Hey pretty good for a true mutt! LOL:D She was 100% purebred MUTT!!! and I loved her with all my heart and always will.

Kanga
01-22-2007, 06:04 AM
I certainly wasn't offended.......... I owned a mutt........and she was the most wonderful little mutt I have ever owned and as smart as could be! She was a mix between a miniature aussie and ???? who knows, but she was the love of my life. She responded to 25 words and knew 15 tricks! Hey pretty good for a true mutt! LOL:D She was 100% purebred MUTT!!! and I loved her with all my heart and always will.

Well of course she was smart she was part Aussie you couldn't expect anything less from an Aussie :D :laugh: :laugh:

Morkie4
01-22-2007, 06:13 AM
Well of course she was smart she was part Aussie you couldn't expect anything less from an Aussie :D :laugh: :laugh:

Why didn't I see that coming??? I must be getting old! But what can I say, she WAS aussie........but she was an American born dog. Maybe that made a difference in her intellect? Ya think???:p :p

I Found Nemo
01-22-2007, 06:35 AM
:D YA know when I get into fights with people that is my favorite word to use. I call them "Dirty Mutts" no offense to a real mutt, but I love that word:D A mutt just means a mix of a dog thats all, I dont find it offensive in the least!! Now to call a person that it means another thing, they usually just look at me with their mouth open:tongue7: :D

They think Im nuts anyway, so what the he$$ I have nothing to loose:D

Jadey
01-22-2007, 08:46 AM
awwwwwww i was not offended :D
i never owned a mutt but i wanted a morkie badly once still want one but i think 4 is my limit atm until a shihtzu or elaines abbie *hinthint* came along :D

Gregswife
01-22-2007, 10:16 AM
After re-reading my last post (#13) I realized that I might have offended some with the term mutt. I don't know why I even used that word, I don't like to use it myself. I know alot of the MT members have mixed breeds and I never should have used that term. For that I am truly sorry. I also feel that I shouldn't have talked about the price someone pays for their pet. I hope everyone will accept my deepest apology.

Cheryl


Cheryl, like Andrea, I didn't even notice that you said mutt - I call mine the mutts and the hounds all the time. You didn't offend me in the least.

I Found Nemo
01-24-2007, 07:28 AM
I think I Found Nemo might be referring to the tan gene I was referring to, not the black maltese, but I could be wrong :confused: Or maybe I confused the thread :eek: by referring to the bit of tan that appears from time to time. LOL who is confused now?

I dont believe their ever was a pure black maltese
:D No not the tan on the ear that is a common thing in the Maltese breed. I meant the black gene, but I guess I am an idiot for thinking it could even happen once. I thought maybe it could, but I think im wrong~~:D

I think the tan on the ear is adorable!!:)

ANDREA~

Morkie4
01-24-2007, 07:49 AM
:D No not the tan on the ear that is a common thing in the Maltese breed. I meant the black gene, but I guess I am an idiot for thinking it could even happen once. I thought maybe it could, but I think im wrong~~:D

I think the tan on the ear is adorable!!:)

ANDREA~
:fainted: :fainted: YOU ARE WRONG????:fainted: :fainted:

Wish I could frame this post!:lol2: :sidesplit: :sidesplit:

I Found Nemo
01-24-2007, 09:49 AM
:fainted: :fainted: YOU ARE WRONG????:fainted: :fainted:

Wish I could frame this post!:lol2: :sidesplit: :sidesplit:
:p :p :D

Morkie4
01-24-2007, 01:37 PM
:p :p :D

What? Did I say something wrong?????:D







:laugh: :sidesplit: :sidesplit: :lol2: :lol2: :hearts6:

I Found Nemo
01-24-2007, 01:47 PM
What? Did I say something wrong?????:D







:laugh: :sidesplit: :lol2: :hearts6:
:p :p No Miss MAnners you did not!!:D :D

mrfinke
01-26-2007, 01:28 PM
I think it would be really cool to have a black maltese, but, yeah, I really doubt it is a purebred.

Cares4dogs
02-01-2007, 06:38 PM
I remember the black maltese...I think the name was cdfarm or something like that and yes-i remember them saying the did have black poodles too...sounded fishy to me, but who am I to say this person didnt have purebred black maltese puppies?

Morkie4
02-01-2007, 07:23 PM
I remember the black maltese...I think the name was cdfarm or something like that and yes-i remember them saying the did have black poodles too...sounded fishy to me, but who am I to say this person didnt have purebred black maltese puppies?
You would be a "smart" person who knows the maltese breed does not have black anymore..........that's who you would be!!! lOL:D

Puppylove17
02-22-2007, 07:11 AM
Hello everyone. I think I have found the answer or at least a possible answer to the question of the black maltese. I was looking at maltese puppies on Live Deal and there is a maltese/chihuahua mix that they say looks just like a maltese but it is black. I am sorry but I dont know how to post a link to it but if you go to www.livedeal.com and then click on pets then dogs then maltese you can find it easily as there are only 3 pages of maltese listed right now and it is on page one. It sure is cute but and at least these people arent trying to pass if off as a pure bred black maltese.

I Found Nemo
02-22-2007, 07:24 AM
I wouldn't even look at that site or even consider getting a puppy from there. Anyone who does is sure to run into a whole lot of problems..
ANDREA~

Morkie4
02-22-2007, 08:09 AM
Hello everyone. I think I have found the answer or at least a possible answer to the question of the black maltese. I was looking at maltese puppies on Live Deal and there is a maltese/chihuahua mix that they say looks just like a maltese but it is black. I am sorry but I dont know how to post a link to it but if you go to www.livedeal.com and then click on pets then dogs then maltese you can find it easily as there are only 3 pages of maltese listed right now and it is on page one. It sure is cute but and at least these people arent trying to pass if off as a pure bred black maltese.
Oh he is adorable! But you are right, they are telling you exactly like it is and not trying to "fool" you into buying a "black" maltese. I wonder if it would shed since it has chihuahua in it??? He is so pitch black it's hard to get a good look at him. LOL

maltesemum
02-22-2007, 09:03 AM
i cant see him:( says i need to put in my zip!

Morkie4
02-22-2007, 09:57 AM
Here Elaine, this is the little mix maltese/chihuahua!

Puppylove17
02-22-2007, 10:02 AM
I wouldn't even look at that site or even consider getting a puppy from there. Anyone who does is sure to run into a whole lot of problems..
ANDREA~

It was not my intent to endorse the site. I have purchased from people on there before and would again but I do my homework before hand and I do not have anything shipped but rather pick up in person so I know what I am getting. As with any website that allows individuals to sell things and or animals, you have to be cautious and use common sense. Again, it was not my intent to endorsse the site but rather to inform others of a possible mix that would result in a so-called black maltese. I had read the posts here in regards to this and was just trying to help.

I Found Nemo
02-22-2007, 10:38 AM
It was not my intent to endorse the site. I have purchased from people on there before and would again but I do my homework before hand and I do not have anything shipped but rather pick up in person so I know what I am getting. As with any website that allows individuals to sell things and or animals, you have to be cautious and use common sense. Again, it was not my intent to endorsse the site but rather to inform others of a possible mix that would result in a so-called black maltese. I had read the posts here in regards to this and was just trying to help.
I know you were.I am sorry my post sounded nasty, I didnt mean it like that.I know what you were trying to say, I just mean that I didnt and dont trust the site..Sorry for the mix up..
ANDREA~

I Found Nemo
02-22-2007, 11:18 AM
:D Oh lord am I being good or what:fainted:
sorry I couldn't resist:D

maltesemum
02-22-2007, 12:30 PM
Here Elaine, this is the little mix maltese/chihuahua!

Thanks for that C:smlove2: your so good to me :hug:

Looks like a maltese thats been playing in a coal mine LOL but hard to see the features!

maltesemum
02-22-2007, 12:32 PM
On another thought!!! Can you get a pure black chihuahua????

Morkie4
02-22-2007, 12:50 PM
On another thought!!! Can you get a pure black chihuahua????

I think you can........but why on earth would you!????:sidesplit: :sidesplit: :sidesplit: :sidesplit:

Go to this link and see all the wonderful colors they come in:
http://deeanna19.tripod.com/chihuahuacolors/index.html

maltesemum
02-22-2007, 01:13 PM
I think you can........but why on earth would you!????:sidesplit: :sidesplit: :sidesplit: :sidesplit:

Go to this link and see all the wonderful colors they come in:
http://deeanna19.tripod.com/chihuahuacolors/index.html

See, an all black one is rare!

So with a maltese mix with one i'd expect maybe another colour in that pup:confused: & by the looks of the itsy bitsy teenie weenie pic it has no chihuahua traits! I'm thinking that this dog has been bred to some other breed! Like a poodle!

Morkie4
02-24-2007, 05:59 PM
See, an all black one is rare!

So with a maltese mix with one i'd expect maybe another colour in that pup:confused: & by the looks of the itsy bitsy teenie weenie pic it has no chihuahua traits! I'm thinking that this dog has been bred to some other breed! Like a poodle!
Definitely a mix of two different dog breeds! Most likely a black chihuahua and a "black" maltese!!!

:sidesplit: :sidesplit: :sidesplit: :sidesplit: :sidesplit: :sidesplit: :sidesplit: :sidesplit: :sidesplit:

maltesemum
02-25-2007, 08:24 AM
Definitely a mix of two different dog breeds! Most likely a black chihuahua and a "black" maltese!!!

:sidesplit: :sidesplit: :sidesplit: :sidesplit: :sidesplit: :sidesplit: :sidesplit: :sidesplit: :sidesplit:

:tongue6: you taking the mickey????

Morkie4
02-25-2007, 09:56 AM
:tongue6: you taking the mickey????

:p It was a joke!::p

maltesemum
02-25-2007, 01:54 PM
:p It was a joke!::p


:p I know :p

Morkie4
02-26-2007, 05:10 AM
:p I know :p
:p :p I'm glad you knew!:p :p

puppies2nv
04-04-2007, 01:22 PM
there is no such thing as black maltese...maltese standards is to be white with some lemon coloring on the ears..

if someone is advertising black maltese...then it has to be mixed...

but nonetheless i would like to see pictures...keke

Morkie4
04-14-2007, 10:17 PM
there is no such thing as black maltese...maltese standards is to be white with some lemon coloring on the ears..

if someone is advertising black maltese...then it has to be mixed...

but nonetheless i would like to see pictures...keke

Look at post #49..........this is the picture stating it was a black maltese. But for those who know the maltese breed, know that the black maltese existed centries ago but was bred out of the breed over time.

I Found Nemo
04-15-2007, 06:16 AM
there is no such thing as black maltese...maltese standards is to be white with some lemon coloring on the ears..

if someone is advertising black maltese...then it has to be mixed...

but nonetheless i would like to see pictures...keke

:D I agree!!!
Andrea

Im26
04-17-2007, 04:34 AM
I guess that breeder sold her "black maltese"
I dont see her on anymore.

carmenp
05-30-2007, 10:05 AM
:confused: Some malts have the bit of tan on their ears and even a spot on their backs, maybe a recessive gene from way back when? I think it is cute. My Sunny has one of those spots on his back but it has faded a bit.

The standard used to be larger too? I think in Europe the standard is still larger than in North America? Maybe that is where all the health problems arise from trying to breed for a smaller dog - why do people mess with mother nature

I agree with you girls. The Malts were different colors but that was back in the 1300-1500's. Wouldn't the recessive gene be wiped out of the gene pool by now? I think they were probably mixed with black poodles. It would be cool though to not have to worry about tear stains or anything like that. I would love a black one.

Morkie4
05-30-2007, 08:49 PM
I agree with you girls. The Malts were different colors but that was back in the 1300-1500's. Wouldn't the recessive gene be wiped out of the gene pool by now? I think they were probably mixed with black poodles. It would be cool though to not have to worry about tear stains or anything like that. I would love a black one.

My daughter's neighbor had a Maltipoo and it looked exactly like a maltese but black!!! Cutest little thing, even had the maltese tail and soft fur. They moved so I don't know how it looked as it grew older but below is a pic of a Moxie (maltese/dauchsund) that friends of ours have and I'm anxious to see how she looks as an adult!

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r309/Morkie4/poof011.jpg

carmenp
06-01-2007, 02:34 PM
My daughter's neighbor had a Maltipoo and it looked exactly like a maltese but black!!! Cutest little thing, even had the maltese tail and soft fur. They moved so I don't know how it looked as it grew older but below is a pic of a Moxie (maltese/dauchsund) that friends of ours have and I'm anxious to see how she looks as an adult!

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r309/Morkie4/poof011.jpg

I thought it would be black? I tried looking for a black Malt online but could only find Maltipoos in black. Some people advertise spotted ones too.

Morkie4
06-01-2007, 03:18 PM
I thought it would be black? I tried looking for a black Malt online but could only find Maltipoos in black. Some people advertise spotted ones too.

The pic in photobucket is not my neighbors black maltipoo but "my friend's" tanish Moxie!

MaxJack'sMom
06-01-2007, 03:37 PM
The pic in photobucket is not my neighbors black maltipoo but "my friend's" tanish Moxie!

Carol---how did they come up with the name 'Moxie' when the 2 breeds are Maltese and Dauchsund? I would think 'Dauchtese' or 'Maldauch' or 'Malsund' !!!

Gypsy & Me
06-01-2007, 03:59 PM
My daughter's neighbor had a Maltipoo and it looked exactly like a maltese but black!!! Cutest little thing, even had the maltese tail and soft fur. They moved so I don't know how it looked as it grew older but below is a pic of a Moxie (maltese/dauchsund) that friends of ours have and I'm anxious to see how she looks as an adult!

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r309/Morkie4/poof011.jpg


What an adorable dog!

Morkie4
06-01-2007, 04:16 PM
Carol---how did they come up with the name 'Moxie' when the 2 breeds are Maltese and Dauchsund? I would think 'Dauchtese' or 'Maldauch' or 'Malsund' !!!

Cause sometimes the dauchsund is referred to as a Doxie for short!

Alana
06-02-2007, 08:31 PM
Well.. not to jinx myself, but I found a adorable maltese/poodle mix in rescue.

He is black with a little white on his chin and chest. Stunning! That little face just called out to me!
He appears to have more of the maltese look, his hair also looks more like the maltese than the poodle.

Tiny little guy, only 1 1/2 lbs. at 8 weeks. Too young to be away from his mommy I know, but he is a rescue, and came in without his mom. Sad story, but he has a chance at a better life now.

I put in a application for him!!!!
Say a prayer for me... I would love to have him.

The organization said I would hear back from them within 48 hours.
Gonna be a long 48 hours! Keeping my fingers crossed...

I Found Nemo
06-02-2007, 08:39 PM
aww good luck Alana, I hope you get him. Rescue is a great thing..Ill be praying for you..
Andrea:goodluck: :goodluck:

mia's mom
06-02-2007, 09:26 PM
Keeping my fingers crossed too...Good Luck...when do you find out on Monday?

Morkie4
06-03-2007, 03:50 AM
I hope he finds a great home with you Alana...........they are wonderful dogs, the combo of maltese and poodle!!!!! Can't wait to congratulate you!!!! But I'll be patient and wait, just to make sure!!!!:D

MaxJack'sMom
06-03-2007, 08:23 AM
Well.. not to jinx myself, but I found a adorable maltese/poodle mix in rescue.

He is black with a little white on his chin and chest. Stunning! That little face just called out to me!
He appears to have more of the maltese look, his hair also looks more like the maltese than the poodle.

Tiny little guy, only 1 1/2 lbs. at 8 weeks. Too young to be away from his mommy I know, but he is a rescue, and came in without his mom. Sad story, but he has a chance at a better life now.

I put in a application for him!!!!
Say a prayer for me... I would love to have him.

The organization said I would hear back from them within 48 hours.
Gonna be a long 48 hours! Keeping my fingers crossed...

Alana, good for you for trying to rescue that precious little baby.
We got Jack from a shelter, he was tossed away at 4 1/2 months. We had to go through a tough application screening, but it was well worth it.
Hope the next 48 hours go by fast and you'll have your little one home with you to love and spoil rotten.

bek74
06-06-2007, 02:08 AM
Alana, is there any news yet?????? Keep us posted please

I Found Nemo
06-06-2007, 02:47 AM
Alana, is there any news yet?????? Keep us posted please

:D I was curious also,Hope it all is good news/

Andrea:D

Alana
06-06-2007, 07:02 PM
Well.... haven't heard anything since Sunday night. I got a email thanking me for my application, said I was being considered. Would get back with me soon.

So here it is Wednesday.
He is still on petfinder, says 'adoption pending'.

Hopefully will learn soon if I am the lucky one!!!

bek74
06-06-2007, 07:14 PM
Well.... haven't heard anything since Sunday night. I got a email thanking me for my application, said I was being considered. Would get back with me soon.

So here it is Wednesday.
He is still on petfinder, says 'adoption pending'.

Hopefully will learn soon if I am the lucky one!!!

I would call them, I have no patience. I really hope you get him.

Morkie4
06-06-2007, 07:26 PM
Well.... haven't heard anything since Sunday night. I got a email thanking me for my application, said I was being considered. Would get back with me soon.

So here it is Wednesday.
He is still on petfinder, says 'adoption pending'.

Hopefully will learn soon if I am the lucky one!!!

I don't think I would wait for them to contact you. Might be better if you contact them again..............show them that you are serious and really really want the dog!!! I adopted both of my kids off of petfinder!!!!!:D

bek74
06-07-2007, 02:23 AM
I don't think I would wait for them to contact you. Might be better if you contact them again..............show them that you are serious and really really want the dog!!! I adopted both of my kids off of petfinder!!!!!:D

I agree, give them another call :D , show them your keen

Chloe'n'Gigi
06-08-2007, 05:35 PM
I don't know if I would say black maltese is not possible. I know a lady from my work (two of her dogs are patients of mine) and she has been breeding and showing maltese for almost 40 years and her mother bred and showed for 20 years before she passed away and she said in all her years of breeding she has had many litter and has only had three black maltese. All were from the same dam. She has one of this bitches sons and he was recently bred to a bitch in TO a few weeks ago so if there are any black pups in that liter then I would say it must be a gene and it is possible. The dam is now retred from showing and breeding.

I Found Nemo
06-09-2007, 04:31 AM
Its so hard to believe that 2 white maltese's would produce a black one:confused: but then again who knows, right:D

Morkie4
06-09-2007, 09:45 AM
I don't know if I would say black maltese is not possible. I know a lady from my work (two of her dogs are patients of mine) and she has been breeding and showing maltese for almost 40 years and her mother bred and showed for 20 years before she passed away and she said in all her years of breeding she has had many litter and has only had three black maltese. All were from the same dam. She has one of this bitches sons and he was recently bred to a bitch in TO a few weeks ago so if there are any black pups in that liter then I would say it must be a gene and it is possible. The dam is now retred from showing and breeding.

Well, I have done a lot of reading on the maltese breed just to be well informed about them. There were black maltese at one time in the early 1700s but they no longer exist and a "black" maltese that is produced has another breed mixed in at some point along the lines not a black maltese gene. The black maltese was found not to be acceptable or desired within the breed and so it was bred out a loooooooooooong time ago!!! So I'm not sure why your friend would be getting black purebred maltese. Today breeders breed for quality and genetic sound maltese and I think most of them would hope not to find a black maltese in their litters. JMO

zeek's mom
06-09-2007, 10:09 AM
Well, I have done a lot of reading on the maltese breed just to be well informed about them. There were black maltese at one time in the early 1700s but they no longer exist and a "black" maltese that is produced has another breed mixed in at some point along the lines not a black maltese gene. The black maltese was found not to be acceptable or desired within the breed and so it was bred out a loooooooooooong time ago!!! So I'm not sure why your friend would be getting black purebred maltese. Today breeders breed for quality and genetic sound maltese and I think most of them would hope not to find a black maltese in their litters. JMO

JMHO, In all of my research (and I researched the breed for 7-8 years before I ever started breeding,) I have never heard of a black Maltese in this day and time. If it were me and I produced one I would be devastated. Because it would show that I was breeding very poor quality Maltese. And I would have to start from scratch with my program. I know that all reputable breeders including myself are breeding to better the breed to the standard. And a black Maltese is not in the standard.

Alana
06-12-2007, 08:23 PM
Well...
I guess I was denied my application for this cute little maltese/poodle mix.
I sent them a email asking why, but have not heard anything back.
They never even called my references.

I am sure they did find a great home for this little one, I have to think it is all for the best, and I will find the one that is meant to be with me.

mia's mom
06-12-2007, 08:31 PM
If you were denied I'm sorry! I would call them if you don't hear back. Good luck!! :hug:

Miss Melanie
06-21-2007, 07:53 PM
OH I sure would love to know what the outcome was about this doggie for rescue.

Oh the Black and White issue... I would LOVE to have a black Maltese and believe me I have been on the hunt, YEAH right but that hunt is on the OTHER planet I live on from time to time. HAHAHA
How clearly I recall when that was first posted about the "Black Maltese" before the Crash.
enJOY!
Melanie

Monica
09-08-2007, 09:27 AM
:confused: Some malts have the bit of tan on their ears and even a spot on their backs, maybe a recessive gene from way back when? I think it is cute. My Sunny has one of those spots on his back but it has faded a bit.

The standard used to be larger too? I think in Europe the standard is still larger than in North America? Maybe that is where all the health problems arise from trying to breed for a smaller dog - why do people mess with mother nature

Dear Sunnydog, here in Europe the Maltese dog has been recognise as Italian. There are proofs of his presence here since 1st century a.C. but all rappresentations of the dog show him completely white. Unfortunately I don't know how to translate the names of ancient writers, poets and kings in your language, but many Malts were pictured next their famous owners like Tiziano (painter), Veronese (painter), Tintoretto (painter), Giuseppe Verdi (musician: the one who composed The 4 Seasons), etc. Following the European standard (required by the Italian Association...) the Maltese dog has to be lightly taller and heavier than the American one. By the way, Malts have to be white, and if you think that they took their origines from "bolognese dog" (a white Italian dog) who also gave life to "bichon frisé" (white) and "havanese" (white) that means that a black maltese is not recognise by any serious breeder or association. Hope I didn't bother you (I also hope my English is not so awful :( )

kelkiss5
09-08-2007, 09:34 AM
I think your english is perfect Monica. You sure got the message through to me. LOL. I love you already.

I Found Nemo
09-08-2007, 09:37 AM
Dear Sunnydog, here in Europe the Maltese dog has been recognise as Italian. There are proofs of his presence here since 1st century a.C. but all rappresentations of the dog show him completely white. Unfortunately I don't know how to translate the names of ancient writers, poets and kings in your language, but many Malts were pictured next their famous owners like Tiziano (painter), Veronese (painter), Tintoretto (painter), Giuseppe Verdi (musician: the one who composed The 4 Seasons), etc. Following the European standard (required by the Italian Association...) the Maltese dog has to be lightly taller and heavier than the American one. By the way, Malts have to be white, and if you think that they took their origines from "bolognese dog" (a white Italian dog) who also gave life to "bichon frisé" (white) and "havanese" (white) that means that a black maltese is not recognise by any serious breeder or association. Hope I didn't bother you (I also hope my English is not so awful :( )

by the way sunndog is no longer a member here:D

Miss Melanie
11-11-2007, 05:24 PM
JMHO, In all of my research (and I researched the breed for 7-8 years before I ever started breeding,) I have never heard of a black Maltese in this day and time. If it were me and I produced one I would be devastated. Because it would show that I was breeding very poor quality Maltese. And I would have to start from scratch with my program. I know that all reputable breeders including myself are breeding to better the breed to the standard. And a black Maltese is not in the standard.

Becky, IF you ever make a black maltese, CALL ME! I will take that puppy in a heartbeat. Since I am not a breeder nor ever going to Show my doggies, I can have a black Malt. :lol2:

I wish I could recall where I read this, but I did once, "Maltese were of every color once, due to fashion wishes all other colors were bred out." honestly I don't find it too impossible to find one that isn't white one day.

In saying this, YES I love White Maltese and find nothing wrong with them at all. I just really like black doggies too.

enJOY!
Melanie

I Found Nemo
11-18-2007, 11:09 PM
Becky, IF you ever make a black maltese, CALL ME! I will take that puppy in a heartbeat. Since I am not a breeder nor ever going to Show my doggies, I can have a black Malt. :lol2:

I wish I could recall where I read this, but I did once, "Maltese were of every color once, due to fashion wishes all other colors were bred out." honestly I don't find it too impossible to find one that isn't white one day.

In saying this, YES I love White Maltese and find nothing wrong with them at all. I just really like black doggies too.

enJOY!
Melanie

:hearter: Imagine how cute an all black Maltese would be, maybe someday!

Morkie4
11-19-2007, 03:52 PM
:hearter: Imagine how cute an all black Maltese would be, maybe someday!

I ever there was a black maltese, you know it would be out of this world in price!!!!:D

Miss Melanie
11-19-2007, 05:58 PM
I ever there was a black maltese, you know it would be out of this world in price!!!!:D

Yes, that would be the first huddle to get over. Then it would be DNA testing 101 for sure. hehehee

enJOY!
Melanie

kelkiss5
11-19-2007, 11:52 PM
So after 7 pages in this thread. Whats the conclusion?? Do we think there was ever a such a thing as a black Maltese.

I Found Nemo
11-20-2007, 01:51 AM
So after 7 pages in this thread. Whats the conclusion?? Do we think there was ever a such a thing as a black Maltese.

I don't thinks so:lol2: :lol2: :lol2:

Miss Melanie
11-23-2007, 03:38 PM
Seems to me that in our world now a days, ANYTHING is possible.

Keep hope alive,
Melanie

Morkie4
11-24-2007, 07:39 AM
I believe the black maltese existed at one time but read that they bred the color out of the breed over time but I do not believe they exist any longer! JMO:D :D

I Found Nemo
11-25-2007, 01:53 AM
Seems to me that in our world now a days, ANYTHING is possible.

Keep hope alive,
Melanie

How true is that Mel!!:wink5:

Miss Melanie
12-10-2007, 04:06 PM
How true is that Mel!!:wink5:

Andrea, if people can walk the streets, looking as if they are talking to themselves, and yet be talking to someone else, just with that silly looking earpiece... ANYTHING is possible. Dick Tracy is alive and well, Get Smart was onto something good with a shoe phone. HAHAHAA

enJOY!
Melanie