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M101
03-07-2007, 04:09 AM
Hi:
Babe is still w/ me. My Aunt is home and has not mentioned returning him to her.

I told my Mom that we need now all the history on him...Vet records; etc.

That I was not going to train him then EVER return him to her. That I was investing lots of time w/ him; and she needed to legally get this taken care of.

My Mom enjoys him, but doesn't help w/ the grooming:mad: .

Thanks for all your posts. :D

Morkie4
03-07-2007, 05:03 AM
Hi:
Babe is still w/ me. My Aunt is home and has not mentioned returning him to her.

I told my Mom that we need now all the history on him...Vet records; etc.

That I was not going to train him then EVER return him to her. That I was investing lots of time w/ him; and she needed to legally get this taken care of.

My Mom enjoys him, but doesn't help w/ the grooming:mad: .

Thanks for all your posts. :D
Now you're talking............you know Babe needs you and you need Babe. I do all my own grooming and maybe once he becomes a permanent part of the family, your mom will pitch in and help with some of his care! Hang in there..........and you go girl!!!:clapsm: :clapsm: :clapsm:

maltesemum
03-07-2007, 05:37 AM
:thumb2: :thumb2: :clapsm: :clapsm:

Good to hear this!!!:D

M101
03-07-2007, 05:43 AM
Hi: Sadly my Mom won't. He likes to nibble on her hands. Kisses mine. But he does know how to waste my time during the grooming session. Prefers me to wait until his bedtime (promptly at 8:00 p.m.)...not 8:01 p.m.

I'm ordering a barker breaker today because he does now bark at minor things; and whines when I leave the room. He'll be a yr. old in May.

Thanks for the encouragement.

Any tips on trimming his nails...my first try he went wild. (The approach?). I'm afraid to take him to a groomer because he could return sick...I just haven't made the investment in all the grooming supplies until I "sensed" he was staying. It's still not etched in cement yet--I'm working on it...his staying I mean.

Thank You

M101
03-07-2007, 05:54 AM
How are you and your babies? Little one is now barking. Ordering a device to help w/ this or neighbor will complain.

He's a handful. He now is allowed to run in a long hallway. He will announce (get fussy) prior to needing to go potty or...and after re-announces when done.

I just finished a new bed. His day lounger w/ a bumper. Haven't gotten the playpen yet through. And no other emergencies.

You're a nice person...and I appreciate your input; I feel lost at times re: him
that I'm not doing the right things for him.

Today's a new day

I Found Nemo
03-07-2007, 06:19 AM
How are you and your babies? Little one is now barking. Ordering a device to help w/ this or neighbor will complain.

He's a handful. He now is allowed to run in a long hallway. He will announce (get fussy) prior to needing to go potty or...and after re-announces when done.

I just finished a new bed. His day lounger w/ a bumper. Haven't gotten the playpen yet through. And no other emergencies.

You're a nice person...and I appreciate your input; I feel lost at times re: him
that I'm not doing the right things for him.

Today's a new day
:( Don't feel lost you are doing the right thing, I know how much you love him. Things will work out, don't worry..Can I see a picture please:D I'm dying to see him, please, please:hands: :hands:

ANDREA~:D

lilybellesmom
03-07-2007, 06:37 AM
I'm hoping that you get to keep Babe. He'll be so much happier and better off with you.

Ashley V
03-07-2007, 03:38 PM
It will all turn out in the end... everything happens for a reason. I think you and Babe were meant for each other.

Kanga
03-07-2007, 03:45 PM
This sounds very promising. Good for you for standing your ground. I am sure it will all work out and he will be your's to keep. :D

M101
03-10-2007, 12:26 AM
Babe Update: Babe on Fri. visited my Aunt. He didn't know her nor did he want her to hold him. (Info. rec'd 2nd hand).

I wasn't along for the visit.

So I don't know if he is ours or? She said his history was w/ Vet. I just needed to make sure he had rec'd shots.

She just said he looked "beautiful".

My Mom came home sad. She still doesn't know if she wants to keep him. I explained that if she got a play pen or large crate it would be easier to monitor him and he would not be in the way at certain times--also for his safety.

I said that there was no way to have had him stay w/ us w/o becoming attached to him. And that subjecting him to another move to someone else was not fair to him. He deserved a chance, and seemed happy. That certain things needed to be done inside and outside for him that I had not had time to do yet. That his training was not complete.

I'm still hoping.

Kanga
03-10-2007, 12:44 AM
At least he came back home with your parents so that is a good sign.

maltesemum
03-10-2007, 12:57 AM
that is a positive outcome, lets hope he always comes back home to you:D

M101
03-10-2007, 12:59 AM
You're right. I'm overprotective w/ him. I feel sorry for him. I fear I'm not doing certain things correctly. And I get frustrated w/ him not liking to be groomed. But I keep at it.

He's giving kisses one minute; then trying to eat cabinets the next. His teeth are bothering him.

Thanks

M101
03-10-2007, 01:07 AM
You're right also. I would be very, very sad to see him leave. He's trying so hard. And I am also.

Thanks

M101
03-14-2007, 12:32 AM
Babe Saga Cont'd:

Babe the last few days has been out of control...biting/barking; fussy; etc.
Last night he lost another tooth, and he got panicky. His mouth had blood where the tooth came out. I was grooming him (trying) and the tooth just came out on the table. At least I was able to retrieve it.
I explained what happened to him...that he'd be o.k. I know his teeth are bothering him terribly, and contributing to him being difficult to manage.

Then last night my Mom informed me that my Aunt feels in 2 weeks she wants him back.

This is a puppy still. Not a 10 yr. old dog. The caregiver must be able to move quickly; get down to his level; lift him; etc.; etc.

My Mom said he is not our dog...I told her that my Aunt was not thinking clearly; and if she was then she was being selfish. If my Mom did not want him then he needed to go to someone that was familiar w/ a Maltese; had time to train him; and provide him all he needed. That to uproot him now was totally wrong. He is not disposable.

Babe is trying very hard to obey me; but because my parents refuse to follow my method w/ him he is confused. I have asked numerous times that they not discipline him--because this means my Father yelling at him.

So after I have thought about the situation long and hard (awake many a night), I decided he would be better off w/ a permanent owner. And perhaps I could help the new owner w/ his training for a while so he wouldn't feel abandoned.

It was not fair to Babe nor to me to invest any more time in training him if his fate was to return to my Aunt. His previous life of abandonment will return w/ her. He saw her last week; did not want her to hold him; didn't know her.

I will either go to my Aunt's house; or I prefer to send a letter to her explaining what is best for him.

I personally don't have the room for him. He would be happier and safer w/ me 24/7, but my space is very, very limited.

It is sad that a puppy that has the potential to be a wonderful dog never rec'd training months ago. And now he is behind in the basics. When I had the Afghan yrs. ago I don't ever remember having to teach him anything, but to raise his leg (and that was funny to see)...he was lazy.

So this is my decision...I will miss him; but I want what is fair for him.

M101
03-18-2007, 01:40 AM
Babe is still here.

I've had endless discussions w/ my Mom re: the need to get the play pen and crate (on rollers). She refuses to get either.

I con't to state it's for his safety; etc. That I cannot con't to run back and forth when he barks or to check on him. That I need to con't w/ my day, and want to have him w/ me to save me time. (I need to exercise daily for 3-4 hrs.).

That I'm ready to send my Aunt a letter w/ receipts for his care since 1/07. That we are not a boarding or doggie day care center. (I know this sounds mean but he was dumped on us; and once my parents allowed him in there was no way he was going back for many reasons). My Mom thinks one of my Aunt's nurses will care for him--this won't happen/can't happen.

I need grooming products; the pen; crate; new toys for him; etc.

Either there must be a monthly allowance for the dog, or the purchase of the pen and crate at least, plus brushes and combs.

Am I wrong? I personally can't finance these items. I'm being his Nanny; have gotten him healthy; and grooming him daily (trying).

But I feel what I'm asking is minor from my Aunt. I learned recently that her son was happy to get rid of the dog because he disliked the dog, and would have taken the dog to the local human society or set him free.

I have the letter drafted, but haven't mailed it; receipts included.

Also, have not had time to take pics yet--be patient.

Pls advise

Linda

Chloeandj
03-18-2007, 09:06 AM
A monthly allowance from a person you do not want babe to return to? Do you consider Babe to be yours? If so,the financial responsibility it seems lies with you. I can understand a fee charged her for some basic needs and boarding from his previous care up to this point, but if you intend to keep him and not return him, a monthly allowance from someone who will not own the dog in the future doesn't seem fair.

M101
03-19-2007, 02:12 AM
Yes, I would like to be reimbursed for the board/care to this point. Plus he severely damaged my Mom's kitchen cabinets; and carpeting. (The carpeting can not be patched).

The reimbursement money (if ever received) will go to the crate and play pen.

I would not expect the dog to survive longer then a week at most w/my Aunt. All the training will be lost. He would return to the isolated existence he had. Return to eating an unacceptable diet; etc.; etc. No grooming.

The most tragic issues are the fact that he is behind in basic training; can not be walked; pushes to the limit not being trained.

My Aunt has no idea who really is working w/the dog. She thinks my Mom is.

The idea of a monthly allowance: The money would have been placed in a bank account in case of an emergency. Also, the allowance was to teach my Aunt about responsibility--that she has been abusing all the dogs she has had for 40 + yrs. (none never lasting til their natural death). And I would have donated 50% to a local rescue.

So my idea was not for financial gain. My idea was a way to fine my Aunt for abusing dogs. Our family had no plan for adopting a dog. We lost an Afghan many years ago, and never truly recovered from his loss.

The idea of the dog returning to my Aunt is not feasible. Her nurses are not caregivers to pets. This dog requires a great deal of attention. He bites and barks--no one will tolerate this.

The other option from my Aunt: She will give him to "somebody" just to get rid of him. He deserves a loving home, and a chance to live a long life.

So I hope I explained this matter more clearly.;)

bek74
03-19-2007, 02:25 AM
I'm sorry but I don't understand, either you take babe on and that includes all financial responsibility or hand the dog back.

We are all clear as to how you feel your Aunt is and how badly treated babe was and understand why you don't want to return him, but that in no way means, she needs to repay you for what had been spent. You never had an arrangment to that affect.

If you can't afford babes care and you feel your Aunt won't care for him properly then my advise would be to take him to a rescue shelter where he can find a loving home that can afford the financial responsibilities.

Morkie4
03-19-2007, 06:31 AM
I'm sorry but I don't understand, either you take babe on and that includes all financial responsibility or hand the dog back.

We are all clear as to how you feel your Aunt is and how badly treated babe was and understand why you don't want to return him, but that in no way means, she needs to repay you for what had been spent. You never had an arrangment to that affect.

If you can't afford babes care and you feel your Aunt won't care for him properly then my advise would be to take him to a rescue shelter where he can find a loving home that can afford the financial responsibilities.

Good posting Bek!!!!:goodpost: :goodpost: :thumb2: :thumb2:

lilybellesmom
03-19-2007, 06:35 AM
I'm sorry but I don't understand, either you take babe on and that includes all financial responsibility or hand the dog back.

We are all clear as to how you feel your Aunt is and how badly treated babe was and understand why you don't want to return him, but that in no way means, she needs to repay you for what had been spent. You never had an arrangment to that affect.

If you can't afford babes care and you feel your Aunt won't care for him properly then my advise would be to take him to a rescue shelter where he can find a loving home that can afford the financial responsibilities.

Nothing else I can add to this post. I agree... I just feel so awful for Babe :(

starry
03-19-2007, 08:02 AM
This is a living loving mammal, not a boat!
I am sorry you are unhappy with the arrangments.
WHAT!Wanting to "teach your 96 yr old Aunt responsibility!:confused: ?" I think you'll find your energy will be better spent concentrating on Babe.
Caring for a dog can take $$, but you are not dealing with a huge illness here and taking one step at a time buying neccesary items can be done.
Please be glad you have saved Babe and try to just have a happy life with each other.:) Iam sure he feels your resentment at times, dogs are not stupid, also don't expect him to be the perfect minding creature either.
Things take time/yrs?
Do you live at home?
Im not familiar with the history of your situatuion but I think you shld just MOVE ON with your new dog Babe and realize money is NOT the answer.Ever!
Hopefully you will not get upset over the responses here to your post and realize everyone is here to give you helpful advice.:)
Good Luck!
p.s. And don't give this dog back to her son!

starry
03-19-2007, 08:13 AM
This is a living loving mammal, not a boat!
I am sorry you are unhappy with the arrangments.
WHAT!Wanting to "teach your 96 yr old Aunt responsibility!:confused: ?" I think you'll find your energy will be better spent concentrating on Babe.
Caring for a dog can take $$, but you are not dealing with a huge illness here and taking one step at a time buying neccesary items can be done.
Please be glad you have saved Babe and try to just have a happy life with each other.:) Iam sure he feels your resentment at times, dogs are not stupid, also don't expect him to be the perfect minding creature either.
Things take time/yrs?
Do you live at home?
Im not familiar with the history of your situatuion but I think you shld just MOVE ON with your new dog Babe and realize money is NOT the answer.Ever!
Hopefully you will not get upset over the responses here to your post and realize everyone is here to give you helpful advice.:)
Good Luck!
p.s. And don't give this dog back to her son!
ALSO!Linda,
I was rereading some of the 1st posts about you getting a playpen/crate/etc. If you go to Walmart in the baby area for $10.00 you can get a baby gate, why don't you put one of these in your doorway of your bedroom. This will give you more control since it sounds like your parents don't want to let Babe in their hearts.
Im sorry you have to deal with soo many ridiculous issues. Let us know how it goes!

starry
03-19-2007, 08:29 AM
ALSO!Linda,
I was rereading some of the 1st posts about you getting a playpen/crate/etc. If you go to Walmart in the baby area for $10.00 you can get a baby gate, why don't you put one of these in your doorway of your bedroom. This will give you more control since it sounds like your parents don't want to let Babe in their hearts.
Im sorry you have to deal with soo many ridiculous issues. Let us know how it goes!
Okay, now I am totally confused. Maybe I shld read all the post you posted but I am truly confused (and VERY worried for this pups future with a senior or family that does not want him, you not included).
What is the real story?
Are you going to keep him?
Send him back to a life of Hell with your Aunt?
Orr do the best for everyone and find a maltese rescue so he can have a life with no confusion,direction and real dedicated love?
Please take him to a Maltese Rescue, your life sounds very busy trying to please everyone.
Just google it and you will find where to call. Also I would not ask anyone in your family their opionion, just do what you already in your heart know is best.:o

I Found Nemo
03-19-2007, 09:11 AM
Okay, now I am totally confused. Maybe I shld read all the post you posted but I am truly confused (and VERY worried for this pups future with a senior or family that does not want him, you not included).
What is the real story?
Are you going to keep him?
Send him back to a life of Hell with your Aunt?
Orr do the best for everyone and find a maltese rescue so he can have a life with no confusion,direction and real dedicated love?
Please take him to a Maltese Rescue, your life sounds very busy trying to please everyone.
Just google it and you will find where to call. Also I would not ask anyone in your family their opionion, just do what you already in your heart know is best.:o


Good Posting, Lisa~:goodpost: :goodpost: and I agree with you.
Andrea~

Chloeandj
03-19-2007, 09:18 AM
Just in case a rescue is the road you want to take. This is the one Deb (3maltmom) fosters for.
http://malteserescue.homestead.com/RescueNEWS.html
Taken from their site:

Do you find yourself in circumstances where you have to give up your Maltese? Northcentral Maltese Rescue, Inc. wants you to know that we are here to help. We welcome any Maltese that needs to leave its home for any reason. This is the most loving decision a family can make for their beloved pet. We understand that this can be a difficult decision and we want to make the transition as easy as possible for you and your dog.
We are a volunteer organization and work from donations only. Because of this we do not pay for dogs surrendered to us. What money we do receive is used only to transport and provide health care for the dogs in rescue. Donations are appreciated but are not necessary in order for us to accept a dog.

starry
03-19-2007, 11:42 PM
Thanks Andrea!..love thos icons..:)
Chloeand j........I was glad to see this, I will try and $end $ome $upport!

Linda!How's it going with Babe?????

Chloeandj
03-23-2007, 07:29 AM
How are things going Linda? Is Babe still with you? I hope he is being a good little boy for you.

Kanga
03-27-2007, 06:12 PM
M101 just popping in hoping to see an update on Babe..... :maltese6: