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Morkie4
10-02-2009, 12:06 PM
I almost at the end of my rope over this HGE stuff with Toby. Woke up this morning and he went right outside and did his business and it looked perfectly normal. Came inside, fixed them their breakfast and then made the hubby's lunch. Went outside to tell the hubby bye and bring in the trash bins and when I came back inside the house............clotty blood was all over the place! My heart sank. I immediately rang up the vet, got him right in but my regular vet was not there. I told them exactly what he had and they checked him and decided he was not "that" bad and gave him meds and some Science Diet ID to eat. Well, I asked about a shot for the runs and an antibiotic and said he didn't need it. :mad::mad: I was so upset and reminded them of his episode in July and then another episode just two weeks ago. I left without the shot and came home. He drank a little water but would not eat the SD..........so I made him some chicken/rice and he refused it as well. I did use some of the chicken to get his meds into him and he laid down and was resting. The next thing I know he is missing. So I went looking and there were "SIX" areas of vomit............lots of vomit. So I called the vet and they said to just not give him anymore food or meds on an empty stomach...........I told them he had food from breakfast. They said give him another dose in the morning an hour after breakfast as this dose must have upset his stomach. I was NOT a happy camper to say the least.

Then I thought to myself, well if he threw up the meds, then he has in reality gone untreated because he didn't get ashot :eek: :eek: :eek:........
so it was as if I had not taken him to the vet in the first place. Within two minutes of getting off the phone with the vet, he threw up three more times. I called back and they said bring him in..................they gave him "two" shots this time which was what I had asked about before leaving last time. I then proceeded to explain that this is an aggressive bacteria and needs to be treated asap to keep symptoms from getting worse and allowing it to overtake him and cause him to be IVed or his death. (I have been down that road the first time with him having had it so bad).

The good news is that he has not had any more bloody stools and has not thrown up anymore. He won't eat and he is drinking but only a little bit. If he is not better in the morning, then off to the hospital we'll go AGAIN!!!

I am going to change vets and also write my regular vet a message that he needs to get a competant person to fill in for him because this guy was way off base and would not treat Toby aggressively.:mad::mad:

Ok so there ya have it and I feel better.

Zanadu'sMom
10-02-2009, 12:16 PM
:( Carol, I am SO sorry. This must be a nightmare for Toby and yourself. It seems never ending :( I hope they didn't charge you when you went back? You have every right to be upset with that moron vet :mad:.
I hope and pray this stops and Toby gets to eating and feeling better soon.
I am so sorry .... :(

mom2boo
10-02-2009, 12:32 PM
Poor Toby,& poor you. I don't know anything about HGE,except it's serious & needs prompt treatment. I would be upset too, with the vet. I hope Toby feels better soon.

LittleDogLVR
10-02-2009, 01:11 PM
Wow Carol, so sorry your going through this again.
Poor Toby...I can imagine how the poor little guy feels.

Hope he feels better soon !

organikmom
10-02-2009, 01:25 PM
Carol I am SO sorry you and poor Toby are going through this.:(You know your baby Better than ANYONE and have been down this road before. I am so sorry also that this happened not only at all but on a Friday no less. You must be exhausted. Can he see a specialist for this?
I am saying a prayer right now for him. Please take care you are all in my thoughts......you are such a sweet lady, I was showing my daughter how cute your babies are.....Toby feel better!!

Vylula
10-02-2009, 01:28 PM
Wow! What a nightmare. That poor baby. I feel so bad for him and you both. That sweet thing doesn't deserve this. I am glad you are writing your vet a note. Vets and docs need to pay more attention to what WE say about our babies. We aren't stupid and we know what is going on.

Wishing Toby for a very speedy and complete recovery.

Zo zo's mom
10-02-2009, 01:29 PM
Poor Toby..this just won't leave him alone. I know you must be so worried Carol and I am sorry.

2Malts4Me
10-02-2009, 02:07 PM
Oh no Carol, not again!! I'm so sorry that Toby and you are going thru this. I would definitely get at least another opinion on this and yes please let your regular vet know how you and Toby were treated. It's happening too often. I sure hope Toby is feeling better now. So sorry.

MaxJack'sMom
10-02-2009, 02:19 PM
Carol, I am so sorry that poor Toby is going thru this again!!! Good thing you stuck to your guns, and good thing you'll let the vet know how you feel.
Jack send best wishes to his buddy Toby.

Sassy's Mommy
10-02-2009, 03:48 PM
Carol I am so sorry that Toby is sick again. Sending lots of warm thoughts and prayers your way for you and Toby.

Miss Melanie
10-02-2009, 05:44 PM
OH my goodness, I feel awful for Toby and you! Your poor nerves and his poor system, really need a break.

Carol, I will again be saying healing prayers for Toby and "peaceful" prayers for you all! LOVE TO YOU!

bek74
10-02-2009, 06:31 PM
OMGosh, poor toby, I can't believe he is still going through this :(, this is just terrible.
I would also have been very upset at that vet and good on you for writing in a letter. Not sure why you would change vets though as you seemed quite happy with your regular vet and it was juts the fill in that stuffed up.

With that aside, I pray Toby is better really soon and this gets under control asap. This must be so hard to have to keep dealing with every few weeks or so.

xxx

Morkie4
10-02-2009, 06:48 PM
I just want to thank all my MT "Family" for the well wishes, positive thoughts, suggestions and kind prayers for me and Toby. He is doing a bit better tonight and was able to eat a little organic yogurt..........I felt he needed something in his tummy so he doesn't go hypoglocemic (SP) on me during the night. He is still not himself but at least he has stopped the bloody stools and has not vomited since this morning!

I'll update Toby's condition in the morning! Night all!

mom2boo
10-02-2009, 07:10 PM
I'm glad Toby is doing better. Hope you both have a good night & hope he's much better in the morning.

plumie
10-02-2009, 08:20 PM
OMG... I am so sorry to hear this.

Poor Toby:( he must be really tired.
What a long day for you.
I know your tired and worry sick too.
Hope things will be better tomorrow.

Zanadu'sMom
10-03-2009, 01:33 AM
I just want to thank all my MT "Family" for the well wishes, positive thoughts, suggestions and kind prayers for me and Toby. He is doing a bit better tonight and was able to eat a little organic yogurt..........I felt he needed something in his tummy so he doesn't go hypoglocemic (SP) on me during the night. He is still not himself but at least he has stopped the bloody stools and has not vomited since this morning!

I'll update Toby's condition in the morning! Night all!

That is good news that all that bas stuff has stopped . I hope and pray Toby has a good night. Love you and if you need ANYTHING you know where I am at
:hug::hug::hug:

Morkie4
10-03-2009, 03:13 AM
Well, we made it through the night without an incident; slept right by my side all night.........I think from pure exhaustion. This morning, he went out and did pee and came back in and went right to the kitchen but would not eat his reward treat (Kallie helped him out by eating his:mad:). Then I fixed the girls' their breakfast of the regular kibble except reduced the amount of Evo Red Meat and put in a few kibbles of the NB Duck/Potato w/ a teaspoon of canned Evo Beef. Toby got a litte of the Wellness, NO Evo Red Meat, a 1/2 teaspoon of the canned Evo Beef and then some of my chicken/rice/SD ID. Just a small portion mind you but he ate every bit of it. My mixture of chicken/rice also had some probiotics in it as well. Let's hope he keeps it down. I'll be giving him his meds at 7:30AM. He is resting in his bed next to the pc but not sleeping. I hope that his poor little tummy is able to hold down the food and his poop is "NORMAL" this morning. :)

Zanadu'sMom
10-03-2009, 03:30 AM
Well, we made it through the night without an incident; slept right by my side all night.........I think from pure exhaustion. This morning, he went out and did pee and came back in and went right to the kitchen but would not eat his reward treat (Kallie helped him out by eating his:mad:). Then I fixed the girls' their breakfast of the regular kibble except reduced the amount of Evo Red Meat and put in a few kibbles of the NB Duck/Potato w/ a teaspoon of canned Evo Beef. Toby got a litte of the Wellness, NO Evo Red Meat, a 1/2 teaspoon of the canned Evo Beef and then some of my chicken/rice/SD ID. Just a small portion mind you but he ate every bit of it. My mixture of chicken/rice also had some probiotics in it as well. Let's hope he keeps it down. I'll be giving him his meds at 7:30AM. He is resting in his bed next to the pc but not sleeping. I hope that his poor little tummy is able to hold down the food and his poop is "NORMAL" this morning. :)

I am glad to hear Toby had a good night :hearter: Toby is in the best hands possible. I wish when I was sick like right now I could be at your house :p
Hope he keeps his meds down..
Still sending my love and thoughts..XOOXOX

Love my Leo
10-03-2009, 03:59 AM
well this explains why you're up so early today! Hope today doesn't bring on any further worries for you and Toby! oxoxoxo

Morkie4
10-03-2009, 05:17 AM
Toby took his meds after trying to trick him with three different foods. The organic yogurt worked! Licked it right off my hand.........pill and all! :D :D

Tcarnagie
10-03-2009, 05:32 AM
Isn't this his 3rd episode with HGE? Seems like he just got over it not too long ago. I sure hope he is doing better and they can get him fixed. Will it keep coming back as quickly as it has?

2Malts4Me
10-03-2009, 05:42 AM
Oh I'm so glad to hear that Toby is doing better Carol. :hearter: I hope things keep improving today.Sending lots of positive thoughts.

Morkie4
10-03-2009, 07:11 AM
Isn't this his 3rd episode with HGE? Seems like he just got over it not too long ago. I sure hope he is doing better and they can get him fixed. Will it keep coming back as quickly as it has?

YEP............THREE!!!! The first was around July 4th, second time was Sept 15th and then yesterday, October 2nd..............I just don't know what to do with the poor guy. Seems like he just gets to feeling better and it reoccurs. I am going to keep him on the probiotics and on the Wellness Weight Management w/ a little NB duck/potato. We'll see how it goes. This HGE is so hard on their little bodies and I worry that the next time will be it. :cry2::cry2::cry2::cry2::cry2::cry2:

mom2boo
10-03-2009, 09:17 AM
I'm glad you & Toby got a good nights rest & he's doing better this morning. I'm so sorry he has this problem & will say a special prayer for the little guy.

Miss Melanie
10-03-2009, 11:53 AM
Thank God, Toby was able to get some rest, food and medicine and seem to be doing a bit better. Carol, thank you for keeping us updated.

I bet you both need a vacation.

Zanadu'sMom
10-04-2009, 05:43 AM
How did he to last night , Carol? :hug::hug:

Sassy's Mommy
10-04-2009, 06:25 AM
Carol I hope that you and Toby had a restful night.

Morkie4
10-04-2009, 07:37 AM
Another day and night have gone by and my little Toby boy has been doing better. Still not himself, but definitely not vomiting or bloody stools, actually no stools at all yet since Friday but then this happened the first two times as well. He is very needy right now and wanting to be held a lot ....... especially by his daddy! He hates the grass which I am sure that I have mentioned before but yesterday he went outside and just laid in the grass :eek: :eek: :eek:

He has been eating regular a bland diet that I have made with chicken/rice/probiotics/SD id............seems to like it. We'll see how he does today. :)

Thanks again to my MT Family for their concerns and prayers for Toby and me!:grouphug::grouphug:

mimimomo
10-04-2009, 09:53 AM
Just reading this...hope Toby makes a full recovery & no more HGE. Poor little guy & poor you, I know how stressful it is when one of our little ones are not well. Sending well wishes!

JesBred
10-04-2009, 11:20 AM
Carol, I am so sorry!!
I have been away this weekend and have just seem this :(:(
I know this is tough on you and Toby, the poor baby boy, but he will get through it.
Toby will stay in my thoughts and prayers, as well as you and Bob, you two must be worried sick

Is there any way to prevent it from happening again, like regular shots or something?? :confused:
Please let me know if there's ANYTHING I can do to help.. I'm just a hop, skip and jump away :justahug::justahug:

MauiGirls
10-04-2009, 10:04 PM
So sorry to hear Toby has been ill, and want to send my wishes for his speedy recovery. Sounds like he's already doing better, but hope he kicks this and that it never comes back. It sounds so frustrating, especially when vets don't do the right thing on the first visit.

Morkie4
10-05-2009, 03:37 AM
Well Toby's doing better and pooped for the first time late last night and it was a "perfect" poop! YAY............seems like the bland diet works well with him and he eats everything up. I may be doing some homecooking for him asap and then when I finish up the dog food with the girls, I'll switch them to the homccooked meals as well. Never thought I would be going for dogs but then I don't have any dogs, just hairy kids.:wink5::wink5:

Zanadu'sMom
10-05-2009, 03:39 AM
I am SO happy to hear it , Carol :hearter::hearter:
I know how much you BOTH have been through and Toby needs a break and some relief :(.. Thanks for updating :D

Eklectic
10-05-2009, 05:14 AM
Carol,
I am so happy Toby is feeling better!

JesBred
10-05-2009, 06:23 AM
SO good to hear Toby is doing better and has "perfect" poop :p

MaxJack'sMom
10-05-2009, 05:16 PM
Carol, I am so relieved to hear that little Toby is doing much better. Hope you can keep this under control if you go the route of homecooking from now on.